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  • Veeral Gandhi March 2, 2014 at 9:38pm

    Dear Prabhu,

    Hare Krishna!

    PAMHO!

    Plenary expansion of Krishna means Vishnu-tattva. All the living entities are also expansions of Krishna, but we are not plenary expansions, we are Jiva tattva, it means that we are one in quality with Krishna, that we are full of knowledge and bliss, but in quantity we are infinitesimal…

    Plenary expansion carries the full potency of the original. This means that just because Sri Narayana is an expansion of Krishna, that does not mean that Sri Narayana is not all-powerful or omnipresent.

    Your servant,

    Veeral Gandhi

    • Laszlo Papp > Veeral Gandhi December 25, 2022 at 11:16am

      Dear Veeral Prabhu,

       

      https://vedabase.io/en/library/sb/4/15/2/ 

      Prabhupada's translation seems to write that Prthu Maharaja and Arci were plenary expansions: "expansion of a plenary portion of Viṣṇu"

      Then, Prabhupada elaborates in the purport as: "This expansion, of course, was not viṣṇu-tattva but a specifically empowered expansion of Lord Viṣṇu known as āveśa.

      Also: https://vedabase.io/en/library/sb/4/15/3/

      "The great sages said: The male is a plenary expansion of the power of Lord Viṣṇu, who maintains the entire universe, and the female is a plenary expansion of the goddess of fortune, who is never separated from the Lord."

      How can we understand this? Thank you!

      I wonder if this helps understanding it further:

      https://vedabase.io/en/library/sb/4/15/4/

      "as a partial incarnation of a plenary expansion of the Lord."

      https://vedabase.io/en/library/sb/4/15/9-10/

      "In their prophecies the learned sages and brāhmaṇas accepted Pṛthu Mahārāja as a plenary partial expansion of the Lord."

      ŚB 4.15.2
    • Walter Cloud ShaktimanahDasa > Veeral Gandhi December 16, 2018 at 8:43am
      Yes that's all true Yet when you say infinitesimal. When accually in-fact, when One speaks of the jivaSoul's potancies & potential potancies, that's like sau in amung the size of the creations the Sun our Sun os infuntessamal, IT could be true but this little atomicSpark like the mighty Sun has a place within this crration!
      I like the word insignificant, because most of the time we are not very cognasent or even focussed at even much mote thsn 10% of our mental capassaty. So yes we are insignificant but only because we offten do not care enoughf to try and make a difference! A singal jiva is
      "the creater of this universe.
      Thank yoi g o r sharing (Hb)
    • Subash Anjuru > Veeral Gandhi March 2, 2014 at 10:59pm

      Hare Krishna Prabhuji..

      Does that mean plenary expansions are the incarnations of Lord Vishnu?

      • Veeral Gandhi > Subash Anjuru March 2, 2014 at 11:18pm

        Yes Prabhuji, they are incarnations of Lord Krishna...

        Please see this chart :

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        • Devanand Uchoi > Veeral Gandhi December 14, 2018 at 9:55am

          Hare Krishna Prabhuji,

          A very beautiful explanation. Thank you

          YS

          Deva

        • Subash Anjuru > Veeral Gandhi March 3, 2014 at 8:13am

          Hare Krishna Guruji,

          Thanks for sharing the picture. It is very clear one. And thanks for taking time and explaining me.

          Regards,

          Subash

          • Veeral Gandhi > Subash Anjuru March 3, 2014 at 11:35am

            I am just a humble shishya, Prabhu! (Not a Guru) Nice to learn that your doubt has been dispelled. Hare Krishna!

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