Hare To All of you
I am Neeraj. And I wanna help from you that if someone is suffering form lust bad addiction that person have any chance to recover.
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Hare To All of you
I am Neeraj. And I wanna help from you that if someone is suffering form lust bad addiction that person have any chance to recover.
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Hare Krishna all,
Pamho,
AgtSP and Guru dev!
The same story that Radha Rasamayi Mataji told was told by one prabhu in his lecture and he said that one person from audience asked him like ' we know that the body is packet of stool and blood, but the packing is so nice that we cannot ignore it'. We are not attracted to internal thing but we are attracted to the skin covering that body. The only thing we can do is pray Krishna desperately to overpower this attraction. Simple thing to remember cheap things get easily. If you have something to pay for you will get a body to enjoy but Krishna prema is not cheap it needs lots of sacrifice. Once you get the taste of krishna prem then only you realise what is the love of lord. It is an experience and nobody can explain the bliss you get out of it. Onething for sure it is no way comparable to the bodily enjoyment. We need to associate with devotees who are experiencing a spark of it and put all our effort to control the rascal mind. It is not easy but you already raged war against maya so you have only one choice to make either fight or fall down.
Your Servant
Aakash
There is a direct line between the tongue the belly and the genitals.
First you control the tongue namely by chanting Hare Krishna eating only Krishna Prasad and not eating more than necessary not too much not too little enough to maintain the body.
Too much food and too much opulent prasad puts a lot of pressure on the genitals.
Keep on practicing devotional service keep on trying be tolerant of yourself and any fall Downs you might experience .
Pray to Krishna to help you and keep His service constantly in your life as you can engaged in devotional service.
Please carefully read the nectar of instruction By Srila Rupa
Goswami.
Here is a link to the audio reading
By Amala Bhakta Swami
You can send away for the original book
From
Krishna Store at krishnastore.com
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https://prabhupadavani.org/audio/amala-bhakta-dasa-narrations/necta...
Your servant
Basu Gopal Das
Hare KRsna Neeraj Prabhu,
PAMHO.
One of the most effective way to overcome lust practically is to chant 16 rounds of mahamantra effectively, eat only Krsna Prasadam cooked by devotees. This requires a lot of austerity in today's world, no packaged food at all. Freshly cooked Krsna Prasadam made by devotees. Do this for amonth and see the difference yourself.
Of course one has to make efforts to control one's baser instincts. This control comes more easily if we do the above.
Haribol,
Your servant,
Radha Rasamayi DD
Yes Neeraj,he can recover if he knows the main cause of his addiction of Lust. As stated in B.G:
Bg 2.62
dhyāyato viṣayān puṁsaḥ
saṅgas teṣūpajāyate
saṅgāt sañjāyate kāmaḥ
kāmāt krodho ’bhijāyate
Translation:
While contemplating the objects of the senses, a person develops attachment for them, and from such attachment lust develops, and from lust anger arises.
Purport:
One who is not Kṛṣṇa conscious is subjected to material desires while contemplating the objects of the senses. The senses require real engagements, and if they are not engaged in the transcendental loving service of the Lord, they will certainly seek engagement in the service of materialisim.
Bg 2.63
krodhād bhavati sammohaḥ
sammohāt smṛti-vibhramaḥ
smṛti-bhraṁśād buddhi-nāśo
buddhi-nāśāt praṇaśyati
Translation:
From anger, complete delusion arises, and from delusion bewilderment of memory. When memory is bewildered, intelligence is lost, and when intelligence is lost one falls down again into the material pool.
So,here is how to avoid Lust:
Avoid too much involvement with the object of senses--no unnecessary talks or gossip or association with opposite sex.
This too much attachment to any material things--money,women,fame,false prestige,own body,so called relatives,and so on--causes one to be entangled and from where lust develops. However,according to Rupa Goswami,every material sense objects can be utilized for the service of Krishna,not to be abandoned. For example, sex life can become religious when it is regulated in married life. As it is confirmed by the Supreme Personality of God Head Krishna in text B.G 7.11:
Bg 7.11
balaṁ balavatāṁ cāhaṁ
kāma-rāga-vivarjitam
dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu
kāmo ’smi bharatarṣabha
Translation:
I am the strength of the strong, devoid of passion and desire. I am sex life which is not contrary to religious principles, O lord of the Bhāratas [Arjuna].
Purport:
The strong man’s strength should be applied to protect the weak, not for personal aggression. Similarly, sex life, according to religious principles (dharma), should be for the propagation of children, not otherwise. The responsibility of parents is then to make their offspring Kṛṣṇa conscious.
So, Lust can be converted into love of God Head Krishna as same electric current can be converted from Heat to Cold.
This is only possible by taking easy process of Krishna Consciousness given by His Divine Grace Srilla Prabhupada through ISKCON.
So, please visit any nearby ISKCON center and adopt Krishna Consciousness. Look even Lord Brhma,Shiva and so called Yogis,tried to overcome Lust but they could not overcome the lust. However, the path shown by Srilla Prabhupada will certainly help one to overcome Lust.
Thank you for your understanding.
Haribol!
When a child is given rice it eats it. When a child is given sugar it eats it. When a child is given sweet once again it eats it.
When all the three rice , sugar and sweet are kept in front of the child, naturally the child goes towards the sweet because it is very tasty than sugar and rice.
Similarly when soul is born in this mortal world, full of misery, along with a human body containing five senses, the default condition is enjoy lower taste - gratifying the senses. Eating uncontrolled tasty food so that the tongue gets satisfied , hearing rock music so that ears get satisfied , seeing beautiful things so that eyes gets satisfied , hankering to earn lot money and fame ......................... etc - so many variety of lower taste.
The lower taste is called sitrinbam in Tamil , Kuruchi in bengali and so on.
However Krishna mentions higher taste in Gita. The higher taste is called Perinbam in Tamil, Suruchi in Bengali , bliss in English, Paramanand in Hindi and so on. Once you taste the higher taste you will not hanker for lower taste.
Just as child naturally goes for sweet as it is very tasty than sugar and rice , similarly a soul which has experienced higher taste will naturally hanker for higher taste than hankering for lower taste like lust, money , fame ………….. etc. Because just as sweet is more tasty than sugar and rice, similarly higher taste is more tasty than lower taste like lust , money, fame ……… etc
Continuously read Gita, Chant the hare Krishna Maha mantra, associate with devotees …………………… etc --- carry out all spiritual activities and you will slowly start relishing higher taste. As far as I know, lower taste and higher taste are inversely proportional. So much you carry out spiritual activities and experience higher taste so much you hankering for lower taste like lust , fame ……….. etc will diminish. Your hankering for lower taste will "naturally" go of, provided you experience higher taste.
Haribol,
S.Balaji.
hare krsna:)
In history, we know one who is most fallen became most pure .example ..valmiki.
so here it is true today also...the extent upto which you feel as fallen, have same potency to become uplifted.
Ask your mind??
--> why want to get rid off lust.
-->answer will be very clear and true. -->bcoz i am suffering.
as much pain you suffer in lust as much bliss you will get by leaving it.(personal experience).
just to remember , this basic understanding of experience you will get out of it.
down below devotees have mentioned very perfect tool to get out of lust.please try it and never be discouraged.(but it will not in real)
bcoz krsna says -:by detachment from sense object and practice only the way one can control his mind..so it is not one day process.
Despite, focus yourself as indulge in lust . keep your mind aware as your mind and senses are engaged in krsna service or not?
and do something for pleasure of lord
if not---> keep engage. -->reading krsna book ,chanting,singing ,take association of devotee best(medicine).
it is science as much you are absorb in spiritual bliss of Krishna consciousness your soul will be satisfied and you will not look for filthy things .it is battle between you and demon lust (big and powerful than u),so alway keep calling krsna(supereme power).
your servant
suraj
We need to avoid to come into contact with sense objects by all means, otherwise senses will be attracted. There is no compromise with that issue, because uncontrolled mind will for sore cheat, even being advanced Yogi.
Controlling lust first starts from changing eating habits and association, assana, pranayama, chanting holy names and krishna katha.
If nothing helps, the advice from Sri Narada is to intensify sense gratification till the extreme maximum, in this way the desire seas down very quickly, being disgusted with that for more.
Hare Krishna Dean Prabhu,
Please accept my humble obeisances!!
"If nothing helps, the advice from Sri Narada is to intensify sense gratification till the extreme maximum, in this way the desire seas down very quickly, being disgusted with that for more."
I humbly request you to give me more clarity on this. Could you please also give any reference about the statement in Srila Prabhupada's books. I want to read more and understand it in good spirit.
Your servant,
Hariprasad
For some time I'm unable to search Srimad Bhagavatam over Vedabase to quote, but I'm sore you can find it yourself if you read it everyday attentively.
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Sacrificial fire is keep burning only because of keep adding small quantity of ghee, but splash of the huge quantity will for sure cause fire to cease down.
Painful experience of sense gratification will cause mind not to be attracted with the sense object for some time, therefore till some extent desire will cease down.
That's only temporary solution which doesn't solve the root of the problem, illusion and ignorance.
Thanks a lot Prabhu for clarifying.
Your servant,
Hari
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