Hare Krishna ,
Please explain and comment on
" Srila Prabhupada warned, even stalwarts can fall prey to the allurements of illusory pleasures "
What is the guarantee that a guru will not fall ,
what if our guru falls , how to gulp and carry on Devotional Service .
Srila Prabhupada said the path of devotional service is full of thorns !!
How to manage ourself from falls !!
Hari Bol !!
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Unless we are pure devotees or liberated souls, we should not make disciples. Instead, we should first become disciples ourselves by taking shelter of a bona fide spiritual master. [From Amrita Vani of Bhakti Siddhanta Sarasvati Prabhupada]
What is Guru: Guru can’t be a Conditioned Soul
Guru is expansion of Paramatma situated in heart of living entity. Lord sends Guru to a sincere devotee who is hankering to advance into devotional service as confirmed by Srila Prabhupada below:
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Resident of the spiritual world
“Unless one is a resident of Krishna Loka, one cannot be a Spiritual Master. That is the first proposition. A layman cannot be a Spiritual Master, and if he becomes so then he will simply create disturbance [...] So to summarize the whole thing, it is to be understood that a bona fide Spiritual Master is a resident of Krishna Loka.” (Srila Prabhupada Letter, June 10th, 1969)
"The guru must be situated on the topmost platform of devotional service. There are three classes of devotees, and the guru must be accepted from the topmost class." (C.c. Madhya, 24.330, purport)
"When one has attained the topmost position of maha-bhagavata, he is to be accepted as a guru and worshipped exactly like Hari, the Personality of Godhead. Only such a person is eligible to occupy the post of a guru." (C.c. Madhya, 24.330, purport)
ashwini ji please get your GURU TATTVA RIGHT.A PURE DEVOTEE,A BONAFIDE SPIRITIAL MASTER ,a Uttama adhikari devotee never falls down.so the next question is how do we understand when a guru falls downs this simply means the guru was not a pure devotee,uttama adhikari,bonafide guru.as simple as that.
69-06-10. Letter: Mukunda
Your next question, whether the Spiritual Master was formerly a conditioned soul, ACTUALLY A BONAFIDE SPIRITUAL MASTER IS NEVER A CONDITIONED SOUL.
69-06-10. Letter: Mukunda
You are correct when you say that when the Spiritual Master speaks it should be taken that Krishna is speaking. That is a fact. A SPIRITUAL MASTER MUST BE LIBERATED.
SB 10.4.20 P
“A person acting in the service of Krsna with his body, mind and words IS A LIBERATED PERSON, EVEN WITHIN THE MATERIAL WORLD.” (Bhakti-rasamrta-sindhu 1.2.187) Therefore, one is forbidden to regard the guru as an ordinary human being (gurusu nara-matir. .. naraki sah). THE SPIRITUAL MASTER, OR ACARYA, IS ALWAYS SITUATED IN THE SPIRITUAL STATUS OF LIFE.
Bg 4.42 P Transcendental Knowledge
A BONA FIDE SPIRITUAL MASTER IS IN THE DISCIPLIC SUCCESSION FROM TIME ETERNAL, AND HE DOES NOT DEVIATE AT ALL from the instructions of the Supreme Lord as they were imparted millions of years ago to the sun-god, from whom the instructions of Bhagavad-gita have come down to the earthly kingdom. One should, therefore, follow the path of Bhagavad-gita as it is expressed in the Gita itself and BEWARE OF SELF-INTERESTED PEOPLE AFTER PERSONAL AGGRANDIZEMENT WHO DEVIATE OTHERS FROM THE ACTUAL PATH.