Hare Krishna,
Why soul is waiting till old age, diseases, accidents, natural calamities to leave the body?
why spirit soul can’t leave its own without help of any suffering?
please explain
hare Krishna
regards,
Syam
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Hare Krishna Pr,
The foolish cannot understand how a living entity can quit his body, nor can they understand what sort of body he enjoys under the spell of the modes of nature. But one whose eyes are trained in knowledge can see all this.
Those who have developed spiritual knowledge, however, can see that the spirit is different from the body and is changing its body and enjoying in different ways. A person in such knowledge can understand how the conditioned living entity is suffering in this material existence. Therefore those who are highly developed in Kṛṣṇa consciousness try their best to give this knowledge to the people in general, for their conditional life is very much troublesome. They should come out of it and be Kṛṣṇa conscious and liberate themselves to transfer to the spiritual world.
One who is enlightened in self-realization, although living within the material body, sees himself as transcendental to the body, just as one who has arisen from a dream gives up identification with the dream body. A foolish person, however, although not identical with his material body but transcendental to it, thinks himself to be situated in the body, just as one who is dreaming sees himself as situated in an imaginary body.
An enlightened person who is free from the contamination of material desire does not consider himself to be the performer of bodily activities; rather, he knows that in all such activities it is only the senses, born of the modes of nature, that are contacting sense objects born of the same modes of nature.
An unintelligent person situated within the body created by his previous fruitive activities thinks, “I am the performer of action.” Bewildered by false ego, such a foolish person is therefore bound up by fruitive activities, which are in fact carried out by the modes of nature.
An enlightened person fixed in detachment engages his body in lying down, sitting, walking, bathing, seeing, touching, smelling, eating, hearing and so on, but is never entangled by such activities. Indeed, remaining as a witness to all bodily functions, he merely engages his bodily senses with their objects and does not become entangled like an unintelligent person.
The Supreme Personality of Godhead said: My dear Uddhava, due to the influence of the material modes of nature, which are under My control, the living entity is sometimes designated as conditioned and sometimes as liberated. In fact, however, the soul is never really bound up or liberated, and since I am the Supreme Lord of māyā, which is the cause of the modes of nature, I also am never to be considered liberated or in bondage.
Just as a dream is merely a creation of one’s intelligence but has no actual substance, similarly, material lamentation, illusion, happiness, distress and the acceptance of the material body under the influence of māyā are all creations of My illusory energy. In other words, material existence has no essential reality.
Just as a drunken man does not notice if he is wearing his coat or shirt, similarly, one who is perfect in self-realization and who has thus achieved his eternal identity does not notice whether the temporary body is sitting or standing. Indeed, if by God’s will the body is finished or if by God’s will he obtains a new body, a self-realized soul does not notice, just as a drunken man does not notice the situation of his outward dress.
The material body certainly moves under the control of supreme destiny and therefore must continue to live along with the senses and vital air as long as one’s karma is in effect. A self-realized soul, however, who is awakened to the absolute reality and who is thus highly situated in the perfect stage of yoga, will never again surrender to the material body and its manifold manifestations, knowing it to be just like a body visualized in a dream.
If we were so free from our karma then anytime we could leave this body.
But it is not so.
Universe is covered with 10 types of thick elements so that any soul go out without paying the debts back.
Karma means debts.
So we chant Hare Krishna Maha Mantra so that Krishna help us to remove our karma; so that we become free from debts and then go back home.
It says that if one chants attentively 16 rounds daily for 50 years then one can achieve some progress in spiritual life.
If one chants 32 rounds daily then within 25 years.
If one chants 64 for 10 years attentively then one can achieve love for Godhead.
Your servant,
Hare Krishna , AGTSP
Maral Mataji could you give Scriptural Proof regarding
"It says that if one chants attentively 16 rounds daily for 50 years then one can achieve some progress in spiritual life.
If one chants 32 rounds daily then within 25 years.
If one chants 64 for 10 years attentively then one can achieve love for Godhead. "
Where did you get the Information From, Authenticity? did Srila prabhupada say that. Very inquisitive to know
Also do you need a Diksha Guru while chanting the rounds for say 25yrs or 50yrs.
Hare Krsna,
In srimad Bhagavadam , there is a procedure for the soul to leave its body on its own. (Under control from the supreme lord). So yes, there is a way.
Please read:
http://prabhupadabooks.com/sb/2/1?d=1
But in the age of Kali, congregational chanting of Hare Krsna Hare Krsna Krsna Krsna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare has been prescribed
So, bhakti is the best way for doing what you propose prabhu under the mercy of Sri Radhe Krsna. Please correct if necessary, since I'm not advanced.
AgtSP
Ys
Hare Krishna,AGTSP
As Srila Prabhupada Explains As long as we are in this material Body / Material world we have to Experience Birth,Disease,Old age & Death. Apart From the Threefold Miseries , Miseries Caused from the mind, Miseries caused by Demigods like Scorching heat & cold,natural calamities ,Miseries Caused by other living Entities.
These Above Mentioned sufferings are there of the material world from Brahma loka to patalaloka .
The solution is to chant the names of God and go back to Godhead by attaining our original Swarupa.
Haribol
Your servant