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Mohini Madhavi > Himavati Devi Dasi July 16, 2012 at 12:01pm

Hare Krishna dear Devotees, please accept my humble obeisances! All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

It is true sometimes such like thing happens.

But in Krishna Consciouses we have to understand that whatever is happening is happening by the direct will of Krishna.

If some senior Devotees hurt us then we have to clarify the situation in a peaceful state of mind rather than again and again going aside and cry or discuss it with others.

Or talk with our senior counselors and they will talk with that senior Devotee who hurt us.

And solve the situation.

No more gossip!

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Also in Krishna Consciousness we have to be humble than a blade of grass, tolerant than a tree, respect everyone and to wait for respect to ourselves.

To be hurt means we need some respect and attention to ourselves.

But on the contrary at that time we just cry before the Holy Names and ask for forgiveness for our such like desire - desire for prestige and honor then the Holy Name will take away that pain and will give real understanding of our real position:

"insignificant, insignificant, insignificant servant of servant's servant..."

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Some other way is when some other senior Devotees dislike us we can pray for their goodness. We have to pray for them nicely and wish all good to them then Krishna within their hearts will change their qualities.

It is for sure.

this process of praying to our enemies is very nice process. Firstly it purifies our own heart by making us humble and changing the heart of other side.

Your servant,
Vraja Jana Ranjana Das > Himavati Devi Dasi July 16, 2012 at 9:12am

hare krishna...WE ARE NOT BODY...REMEMBER WE ARE ANSH OF LORD...aur aatma kuch nhi hota....SOUL ONLY KNOWS THE ADRESS OF LORD ...BUT DUE TO OUR MANY DESIRES OF MATERIAL WORLD....wo adress gum ho gya ....

example.. we have a notebook( aatma) ,pages( mann)...in notebook we have only adresss of LORD...but due to material world desires...hum apne pages mein kuch aur likh rahe hai...jisky wajah se wo adress humko mil nhi raha......jo humne pages mein likha wo pencil se likha means (not permanent)...but jo actual mein likha NAME OF LORD( permanent hai) so aviod karo aur likha( desires)///.....

Shreedhar Ganapathy July 15, 2012 at 4:27pm

we can serve lord krsna and be krsna conscious only if we let go of our desires and give up sense gratification.the supreme lord is the master of all the worlds.this human birth has been attained after 84 lakh births.the lord is the supreme controller and yet aloof from everything.if you continue to have desires and gratify the senses it will accrue to your next birth and you will forever be trapped in this world of misery and maya the lords infeerior and marginal energy and plunge into worrse worlds for 84 lakh births.thats why the lord says surrender to me and you shall achieve liberation and attain goloka and be his eternal servitors in wonderful vrndavan forever.karma may be a partial reason.but this is the main reason.you cannot have the cake and eat it too.

hare krsna!!!

Vraja Jana Ranjana Das July 10, 2012 at 8:51am

YES ..SUFFERINGS AND ENJOYMENT COME TO US AS ARESULT OF OUR PAST KARMA...

ALL THINGS IN THIS WORLD ARE LIKE A BUBBLE.... NOTHING IS PERMANENT.....WE FEEL BAD OR GOOD IS BECAUSE OF OUR MANN......BECAUSE IN OUR MANN WE MAKE MANY DESIRES....WHICH MAKE US FELL BAD OR GOOD...BUT IF OUR MANN MAKE ONLY ONE DESIRE TO BECOME A TRUE SERVANT OF LORD KRISHNA THEN OTHER THINGS HAVE NOT MUCH EFFECT ON OUR LIFE....

saran sankaranarayanan July 1, 2012 at 4:54pm

krishna is testing us...

a raw gold changes to beautiful ornament only it get heated up.that way lord is purifying us through sorrows.]thats why kunti prayed krishna to bless her with suffreings and obstacles

hare krsna

Mitu Nayak June 27, 2012 at 8:34pm

HARI BOL, HARI BOL, HARI BOL

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Mohini Madhavi June 9, 2012 at 3:07pm

concerning the suffering.

Usually non Devotees try to cover those pains by covering their consciousness by sleep, food, alcohol, intoxication, drugs...because of that they do not feel so much that they are suffering.

But when we keep our consciousness clear we will be able to see how much we are suffering.

In Bhagavatam 7th Canto Narada Muni explains the living styles of a civilized person. There he explains of how one can reduce the 3 types of sufferings:

1. By doing hatha, pranayama yogas some other yogas one can reduce the problems with the body and mind.

2. By being free from envy to others and being polite with others one can reduce the suffering which comes from other living entities.

3. By meditation in trance one can be free from the sufferings which is from providence.

If materialistic people use illicit ways of reducing pain we can use these 3 above.

Your servant,

Daniel > Mohini Madhavi June 28, 2012 at 1:15am

Usually non Devotees try to cover those pains by covering their consciousness by sleep, food, alcohol, intoxication, drugs...because of that they do not feel so much that they are suffering.

Thank you for pointing this out. It seems to me that if you havethe intention of trying to enjoy life like most of North American culture you can find many material sense distractions to give you the feeling that you are enjoying. ALmost everybody in North America has some kind of substance addiction. Therefore you distract yourself from the suffering but it doesn't go away. When you give up a drug or substance addiction you always have a period of intense suffering (detox or withdrawl) as the body adjusts itself to living without the drug. I wonder if this phenomenon of devotees appearing to have more difficulties and suffering than non-devotees may be like the spiritual equivalent of this. Before we became devotees we were not ready to recieve all this negative karma because I guess we were a) too busy trying to enjoy ourselves, and b) not spiritually/emotionally/physically strong enough to handle it and process it (?) Just my thoughts...

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