One of my Friends Question

I Have been in iskcon since  past 3 years……
I was much addicted  to porn and other abominable stuff before coming in contact with iskcon.
Being frustrated  by such abominable stuff I decided to do some charitable/social work for getting relieved from such situation.So,I came in touch with iskon and rendered services  and took first initiation.When I was initiated I was very young and did not know the consequences of making such vows. Therefore I should not be bound for life to a promise I made in ignorance. Also, I have deviated from the basic moral values(truthfulness, honesty) for spiritual and social well being in the name of trancendental fraud which I was never used to it before joining iskcon.
I have  controlled this disease of porn addition since 2 and half years  and in some stressful condition my tendency of  porn addiction has comeback to haunt. Coincidently I have some work related to internet and I end up getting side tracked to porn on the net due to my flickering mind. Please help me to cure this Disease

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  • Sounds like you are in need of learning how to enjoy your sex life, but in a more spiritual way, besides just the physical body.  Porn lacks the teachings of spiritual understanding in one's sex life.  I would suggest reading and studying Sexual Secrets, The Alchemy of Ecstasy by Nik Douglas to get a broader understanding of who you are and how spirituality and sexuality joined in spiritual union will bring aboutspiritual and physical enlightenment.  If you run a search on google for the book there is a PDF version you can read for free....You may have reincarnated from the Khujaraho age and need to take a trip to some of the ancient temples as a pilgramage.  Hari Om Tat Sat Krishna blessings...

  • E-Counselor

    Hare Krsna Mataji,

    PAMHO.

    First of all, your friend has taken initiation and then rejected his guru on the frivolous ground that he was too young at that time. Was he an adult? (I presume so, I dont think porn addiction would have a childhood problem with him). If one is not willing to take responsibility of ones own actions, done (at that time) voluntarily and in full senses, and one is not willing to surrender to one's guru (rejecting the guru without any fault of the guru, due to own weakness of mind), what hopes are there for elevation. It is but natural that one will fall down in the abyss of ignorance. It is possible that we may have faulted in our duties post initiation and may not have lived upto all the vows, that does not mean that we can reject the guru and absolve ourselves of all the vows we have taken. Please tell your friend to get back to chanting 16 and following 4 with due diligence. Our gurus are so merciful that despite your rejecting the guru, he would not have rejected you and for all you know, maybe undergoing physical and emotional pain for the sins committed by you.

    It is a very convenient situation - on the one hand, we have the right to reject our guru, not follow any or all of the regulative principles and even omit to chant, but we expect all our problems to be solved and addictions to be over. It doesnt work that way my dear, the lord and His servant are most merciful. We also have to show our efforts to atleast do basic sadhana sincerely.

    The purpose of coming to ISKCON was to do charitable/ social work, so that this addiction could be solved. The entire purpose of coming to ISKCON was material. However, it is often seen that by sincere sadhana, one's material contamination is cleared and real objective ot developing love for godhead arises. It is obvious why it did not arise in the case of your friend.

    I do not see any solution for your friend until he puts his sadhana back on track. Therefore, I will not offer any other common sense advice to him.

    Haribol,

    YOur servant,

    Rashmi

  • Non of the human beings can leave lusty desires as long as they see difference based on body form, sex, education, caste, and all such material classification. Only devotee of Lord who by engaging in intensive bhakti yoga, armed with transcendental vision and austerities can be completely liberated from such illusion.

    Besides that, if person start to be completely absorbed in Krishna lilas with gopis, he/she can be quickly liberated  from such heart disease :

    SB 10.33.39 — Anyone who faithfully hears or describes the Lord’s playful affairs with the young gopīs of Vṛndāvana will attain the Lord’s pure devotional service. Thus he will quickly become sober and conquer lust, the disease of the heart.


    -This is the easiest and fastest way to fully conquer lust, which even celestials are unable to.

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  • Volunteer

    Hare Krsna Nivedita mataji,
    My obeisances to all devotees, guru and gauranga.

    Ahh!! you beat me to it Kshatriya prabhu.

    Nivedita mataji, forward the above link to your friend. Urmila mataji outlines a wonderful way to turn our lust into love for krsna. I posted this onto IDT few weeks ago. 

    http://www.iskcondesiretree.com/forum/topics/how-to-turn-material-l...

    The one thing your friend can do to avoid getting distracted or side tracked while working or using his/her laptop is to install a porn filter. This avoids the risk of intentionally/accidentally visiting the unwanted sites and also save him/her from his/her browsing history with non-work related site entries.

    Srila prabhupada ki jai..

    Hare krsna

  • Krsna is known as Hrishikesha-the master of the senses. If we engage all of our senses into him(which includes our mind), it will stop jumping like a monkey from one tree to another, to websites in this case, so as HH RNS said if we give the monkey of mind the higher taste it wont stoop down to lower tendencies, give the mind the higher taste of chanting, hearing and devotee association and the mind will calm down.

  • Hariii boool.

    -By intensive practice of bhakty yoga, all material lusty desires are ceased. 

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