Hare Krishna ,

PAHMO , ASTSP

Just a question came to mind , many people says till a person do not have knowledge about god he do sense gratification . After getting Knowledge he leaves it .

I personally do not agree to it , It is a constant Practice . That is why devotion to Krsna is called Bhakti Yoga . Prabhupada says if just one thing , like eating a choclate is left in our mind , we will fall from Target Of Achieving Krsna .


Complete surrender means no sense gratification , only gratifying senses of Krsna .

But how can one become very very strong in his oath , that i will only serve Krsna and not myself.

Let the world offer me the best quality sense enjoyment .

I found that sense enjoyment becomes more powerful when you leave it , like i see something good to eat , i am attracted . But after eating i say shits it was not that good that earlier i use to feel . In this modern , growing world how to insulate ourself from these pleasures .

Is this illusion , Maya ?

Please give your views .

Hare Krishna !!

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  • Volunteer

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  • Volunteer

    for example, in Bhagavatam it explains the miserable condition of family life. But those who understood it just from hearing about it they will not get into family life.  

    But those who did not realize and still can not be detached from it they enter into family life and seeing all those sufferings they realize that it is true.

     In this way we can not judge the second one. Second one is also sincere. Because he is sincerely accepts his weakness and voluntarily enters into family life and tolerates pains and in this way achieves detachment.

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    The example, was given already with too much eating. Example, i refuse to eat sugar, wheat, cakes, rice. Why? Because if i eat i ll

    1. sleep much 

     2. get lazy

    3. have indigestion

    4. as a result with ama inside i will be the most unhappy  person. 

     because of these pains i do not eat. 

    In the reality these pains are there just for our own benefit.

    Really i am not able to explain it  in other ways! Hope other Devotees will nicely explain by the mercy of Guru and Gouranga!

    Your servant,  

  • Volunteer

    Hare Krishna Ashwani Kumar Prabhu,

    Please accept my humble obeisances!

    All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

    Real knowledge means realized knowledge. Some one realizes it by only hearing the knowledge of Srimad Bhagavatam. Some one will realize it by experiencing the pain. But some one even if he experiences won't realize it.

    Krishna says that intelligent one can control his senses by just remembering the sufferings which brings senses gratification. As like if we will eat too much we will have stomach ache, then we will sleep too much and loose time. Knowing these future troubles intelligent one rejects to eat too much but prays to Krishna to help him to control his senses.

    We can not be detached from senses gratification artificially. We have to be sincere and accept that at this moment we are very weak. Because of that Krishna recommends us if you want to eat nicely then eat Prasadam. We can eat very nicely.

    Then after some while Krishna will give to us real detachment by giving higher taste. As like Srila Rahgunatha Goswami Maharaj he used to drink a cup of butter milk every two days. How? It is not because he was fasting and suffering r=from hunger. No. He used to enter into Vrindavan Lila and eat Prasadam There. Higher taste!

    He used to eat with the Brajabasis in Goloka Vrindavan.

    In this way at this time we should eat nice Prasadam, associate with Devotees, chant our rounds and beg Krishna to help us to control our senses.

    Then how He will help us?

    He will check us by agitating us with sense objects and that time we become humble and surrender to Him He will come and help. But at that time we become proud then He will give to the hand of Maya Devi.

    By giving us such like exams Krishna wants us to become stronger & stronger. And wants to see our surrender.

    Please, eat nice Prasadam! and remember of suffering which bring sense gratification. 

    Your servant, 

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