Is Siksa Initiation as good as Diksa Initiation?

Please Accept My Humble Obeisances.All Glories to Srila Prabhupada, Sri Gurudev & Gauranga.Hare KrishnaI know that Diksa initiation is official initiation into Gaudiya Sampradaya, but my question is, are those who receive Hari Nam initiation not included in Gaudiya Sampradaya?Please forgive me if this is a stupid question. I sometimes feel left out because I have only received Siksa initiation (Hari nam initiation).Your servant,Bhakta David

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  • Volunteer

    Hare Krishna David Prabhu, please accept my humble obeisances! All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

    Diksha Guru is that who gives us Hari Nama initiation. He chants in our new beads and after fire yagya officially giving spiritual name Diksha Guru promises to take us to Spiritual world and disciple promises to follow all 4 regulative principles and chant minimum 16 rounds daily.

     If You got Hari Nama initiation You should have different name as i understand or?...

    Shiksha Guru means that person from whom we learn - gain knowledge.

    The might be lots of them. Senior Devotees, other Guru Maharajas, other Devotees...

    Diksha initiation one may request if one chants min 16 rounds for 2 years + 4 reg.pr.

    but if one lives at the Temple then 1 year is enough.

    Your servant, 

    • Hare Krishna Bhaktin Maral Mataji

      I did not receive Yajna initiation.
      I thought Hari Nam initiation was also when another devotee (Brahmacari, Grihasta or Sanyasi) teaches the Maha Mantra, Panca Tattva mantra, and gives bead bag with counter beads?

      I thought this to be Siksa initiation.

      Pardon me for my mistake.

      Your Confused Servant,
      Bhakta David
      • Volunteer

        Hare Krishna David Prabhuji, please accept my humble obeisances! All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

        yes, Devotees may give us beads and bead bags but it does not mean that they are our Diksha Guru. They might be our Shiksha Gurus who also give knowledge how to chant and etc.

        There is special fire yagya, i think You have to find out videos of such like initiation yagyas.

        Your servant, 

        • Hare Krishna Maral Mataji, please accept my humble obeisances! All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

           

          Mataji My one of the frnd got initiation application from iskcon pune he said that, he attend for 2-3 times before this but he is not eligible for diksha he is iskcon from more than 10yrs when he was student in pune as MBA, BE Student and chanting daily 16 rounds, daily morning programme, kirtan, book distribuion, and some times preaching also to devoties like me i am with him from 6 months i observe he is very sincere, enthusiastic and serious devotee.

           

          Mataji Could u please give some instructions to got diksha (Initiation) at least this time.

          and pls what is necessary rules for initiation. 

          your servant

          sachin

          • Volunteer

            Hare Krishna Sachin Polawar Prabhu, please accept my humble obeisances! all glories to Srila Prabhupada!

             It depends on Krishna's will. By Krishna's mercy we get a Guru then by Guru's mercy we get Krishna. In this way no matter how many years we chant but we should try to please Krishna with our sincere chanting. 

            Krishna is in everyone's heart. When we please Krishna He will say it to our Gurudev and some day our Gurudev will initiate us.

            Some of disciples of Srila Prabhupada told him that "Prabhupada, how do will you know that i am chanting sincerely and pleasing you and Krishna? How will you know that i am a sincere? You are always far away..."

            Srila Prabhupada told "no, Krishna is in my heart also, if you please Him then He will tell me about your sincerity."

            In this way we have to pray to Krishna to help us. This is the only way.

            Your servant, 

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