Hare Krishna to all the devotees
All glories to srila Prabhupada
There are two kinds of living entities
- Nitya baddha (eternally conditioned) who are from eternity (from the life cycle of many many brahmās) conditioned and suffering in the mesires of material nature (bhotik jagad)
- Nitya mukta (eternally liberated) who are from eternity service radha Krishna with pure love (in golok vrindavan).
So is it possible for these eternally conditioned souls (like me) to become eternally conditioned.
Since these liberated souls (eternal associates of lord krishna) come to this world to teach us how to go back to home, back to Godhead (like srila Prabhupada) , and partake in the divine pastimes (līla) of lord , as they have intimate relationship with lord, so for souls like me (who are eternally conditioned ) is it possible to become a eternally liberated soul, who are so high that they are with lord in his pastimes!?
Disclaimer:- i am not trying to saying that I want to become LIKE srila Prabhupada, I am just asking whether is it possible to become A LIBERATED SOUL like him.
Jai gaur nitai
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Hare Krishna prabhuji
Samajhadaar ke liye ishaara hi kaafi hai!- you say, but I am a fool! PLEASE explain 🙏
Yes but my question was whether or not you can become eternally liberated
You are right prabhuji, I mixed up nitya mukta with nitya siddhas , sorry
Hare Krishna
A nitya-baddha can become eternally liberated (nitya-mukta) or jivan mukta ...even when living in material world can be called Jivan mukta ..because Once liberated, you never become conditioned again.
But a Jivan mukta soul shouldn't be confused to Nitya Siddha ( like Shree Radharani, 8 principle gopi's) They are eternally siddhas and they don't need any liberation as they were never ever got caught into maya like us ( nitya badhhas).
Ok mataji,
So manjris like nayan mani manjri (who came as HDG srila bhaktisiddhant sarasvati thakura Prabhupada) are also nitya siddhas right?
Yes. all gopikas and the manjari's who are closely present in service of Shree Shree Radha Krishna , who can enter freely into Nivrttta NIkunj pastimes who can access to the most confidential pastimes and participate in the leela are all nitya siddhas.
We jivas's are eternally conditioned as we are contaminated by maya. But when we come in contact with guru who is in parampara ( like Srila Prabhupada) who can place us in Manjar's seva.
We can become jivan mukt when present in this world.. when enter the goloka we get our original swaroopa and we may get chance to be serving Manjari's.
Max. one can hope is to become a sevika of manjari's who inturn are serving pradhaan gopis' who are inturn in service of Shree Shree Radha Krsna.
That is also an exalted position to expect.
lotus pe ana have to show something
NO never I wanted to become a main character. But yes, I feel a bit weird if Lord will ever come to us also?
Don't worry mataji I heard from HG amogh lila prabhuji who addressed the very same concern saying that krishna is personal with every devotee, he himself comes to take us with him , talks to us , embraceses us , introduces is to shrimati Radha Rani, then to yashoda mahiya, nanda maharaj, and then takes us to nitya lila in golok
Bura? For that we cannot become direct servants of Radha Krishna?
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