hare krishna
Nitai
hare krishna
Me
prabhu cn we discus one issue
sure
it is said taht in bhagvad dham everythintg is chetan
is it mean stones are also chetan?
sorry prabhu
let me explain
i dont kow wat it means by chetan
chetan means having consciouness just like we are , plants are
oh yes
yes
so stones are there or not
yes
krishna says that
so are they chetan
everything animate and inanimate emanates from me
yes
is that living means are stone are living there?
I think you got it mixed up
Stone is a inanimate object
but
when the world was created
Maha Vishnu
entered
no no let explin the words of bhaktirasamrit swami
oh ohk
he said in one leactre, that everything there in golok vrindavan is chetan. so after living this body, some may become tree, aome become stones some become trees to serve krishna in different way
oh ohk
so this is about in the spiritual world?
yes
ohk yes
ye
there are stones like that
cintamani stone
desire stones
so are they living entities
by my understanding, yes, in the spiritual world
because
in the spiritual world
everything serves krishna
that means u will may become stone?
and you can desire in anyway to serve krishna
it is upto you
you can serve him as a friend
that means u will may become stone
tree
only if you want to
not by force
ONLY IF YOU WANT TO
SERVE KRISHNA LIKE THAT
so hw cn one accept to become atree
Giving shade to Krishna
ohhhhhhhh
and providing fruits to his devotees
SO krishna can climb tree
and pick fruits with other decotees
bt then what anand will he get by this than to become his friend
trees can produce flowers for krishna
That is upto the Bhava of the devotee
Krishna is Absolute
so suppose i wnt to become friend of krishna is it possible
ofcourse!
it is said that in Bhagvada Gita
when?
It is said
you can love him as
a
friend
lover
parent
uncle.aunty
hw cn i knw that i hv become a perfect to enter into bhavad dham and to become a friend
brother sister
To go to Krishna
it is simple
At the moment of your death think of Krishna
It is simple
but
a hard process to follow
because
to remember krishna at the time of your death
you need to serve him, chant his holy name
so you can remember him in the end
then will i again fall?
No,
but
whenever
then why i alredy fallen
because of your desire
See
Krishna is the supreme enjoyer
and we are the servant
we wanted to enjoy separately to krishna
that why we fell
and its not that
Krishna sended us here
we forced Krishna to send us
Just
like a child may ask a parent for something
but if the parent says no, the child insists
so the parent eventually let the child do that
But
after realizing
that we cant enjoy without Krishna
then the child will always listen to the parent
Just like us
now that we know
we can only be happy
by serving Krishna
we will never come back
then wht is the garntee that after going i will nt become again envious
guarantee
is that
you will have to give up enviousness here
if you dont give it up here
then how can u go to Krishna
and if you give up enviousness
and go to Krishna
Krishna promised
us that we will never come back
because now we have learnt
we cant enjoy seperately
then wht is the garntee that after going i will nt become again envious in spiritual world
if you wont become envious in this world, how can u becomeenvious in the other?
now that u already learn
learnt*
and we have to accept krishnas word
does it mean jiva fall fron bhagvad dham only ones and as soon he realizes he will go back to home and never come back we are here only to learn a lesson what happens without krishna/
once u attain him
yes!
uve got it
that means after learning a good lesson how cn i again become envious?
you cant become envious if youve learnt a good lesson
yes yes i hv got it nw/
great
jai
if you havent learnt a good lession
you will repreat the cycle of birth and death
ya
its good that u got these very nice questions
sso others can benefit as well
o thanx to srila prabhupada
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