Hare Krsna!
Please accept my humble obeisances.
All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Could you please give me some examples from the outcome of our internal and external potency ?
I am trying to understand the meaning of internal external potency.
Thank you.
Your servant
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Hare Krishna dear Mutlu Mataji, please accept my humble obeisances! All glories to Srila Prabhupada!
Krishna in Bhagavad Gita says that He has 3 types of energies:
1. Internal
2. Marginal
3. External
We are - simple souls parts and parcels of Krishna belong to marginal energy. Material - dead matter belongs to external energy. And eternal associates of Krishna like Srimati Radharani, Yashoda Mata, Nanda Maharaja...are His internal energies.
We are marginal because we may fall to this material world or choose to be in spiritual. But eternal associates of Krishna never fall.
Hope Devotees will answer to this philosophical question very expertly!
Your servant,
Hare Krsna! Thank you very much!
Hare Krishna Maral Mataji. Danadavat Pranam. All glories to Srila Prabhupada
/*And eternal associates of Krishna like Srimati Radharani, Yashoda Mata, Nanda Maharaja...are His internal energies. */
It is not that Srimati Radharani, Yashoda mata, Nanda Maharaja or other inhabitants of Vaikuntha are only internal energy. All the Living entities in the entire existence are also Krishna's internal energy. Internal energy means spiritual energy , i.e. the energy which is living or conscious of his existence.
Now Internal energy are of two types .
1. Always Liberated (Nitya-Mukta) ~ Those Who never leaves Krishna and never falls from Vaikuntha (spiritual sky). Examples are Srimati Radharani, Yashoda mata and others.
2. Not Liberated (nitya-baddha) - Those who has a tendency to fall in this material world. when this Internal potencies or living entities come in this material world and they mixed with the matter then they become marginal energy because they can choose either to live in this matter or to back in their original state or spiritual existence.
But when the marginal energy takes shelter of Guru and Krishna and performs Sadhana-Bhakti and attains siddhi or liberation by Guru and Krishna krpa or mercy then he no longer can be called marginal, He become an associate of Vaikuntha even in his present body, because he dwells in Vaikuntha consciousness.
Hope this will help
Your aspiring servant
hari Bol
Hare Krsna! Thank you very much!
my humble obeisances Sudipta Roy Prabhu,
thank You very much for such like clear explanation!
Your servant,
Hare Krishna Mataji. Dandavat Pranam. All glories to Srila Prabhupada
Krishna is omnipotent, so therefore He possess unlimited number of potencies, all these potencies is categorized under three potencies. i.e. External Potency, Internal potency and Marginal potency.Understanding the Definiton of these potencies depends on the maturity of the sadhaka or practitioner.
For a beginner the defnition of this two energies is given by Krishna in Bhagavad Gita
External Potency :
In a simple definition External potency means Material energy or separated energy of Krishna, by which the whole phenomenon world is created, that we (living enitity or soul) percieve daily through our senses in waking state and dream state.
BG 7.4: Earth, water, fire, air, ether, mind, intelligence and false ego — all together these eight constitute My separated material energies.
Internal potency :
Internal potency means Spiritual energy of Krishna, that is the living entity or soul minus matter .
BG 7.5: Besides these, O mighty-armed Arjuna, there is another, superior energy of Mine, which comprises the living entities who are exploiting the resources of this material, inferior nature.
So a beginner should understand the External and Internal potency of Krishna in this way.
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But when one advances in Krishna Consciousness , the person sees Krishna's internal potency only even in the matter or material energy . Because when our senses become purified and trained to see Krishna everywhere we see nothing but Krishna everywhere, even in the non-moving matter. Now as explained above that soul is the internal potency , so as Krishna is supersoul of everyone and everything, we see internal potency only. Because Krishna Says in Bhagavd Gita.
BG 7.6: All created beings (Internal or soul and external or matter) have their source in these two natures. Of all that is material and all that is spiritual in this world, know for certain that I am both the origin and the dissolution.
Just like electricity is coming from the source power house, and the engineer knows how to convert it in AC or DC current. Similarly Spiritual energy and material energy both coming out of Krishna or Supreme spirit, so ultimately everything is his internal potency only. It is the matter of maturity in devotional service to recognise it.
Vedanta sutra says :
janmādy asya yatah ~ The absolute person from whom everything ( sentient and non-sentient being) is emanating. So as the source is Internal or spiritual potency in absolute sense the effect is also spiritual or internal energy. Because the Vedas says " Sarvam kalv idam Brahma " means all that is in the creation / before the creation is brahman or Krishna only.
Hope this will help
Your aspiring servant
Hari Bol
Hare Krsna! Thank you very much!
Hare Krsna!
Please accept my humble obeisances.
All Glories to Srı Guru and Gauranga.
Thank your for your very kind messages but in my message I couldn't made myself clear.
My question was rather different, I will try to be very clear now.
We can say that Human beings have also internal and external energies, right? For example if I say like that would this be correct?
"Human beings external energy is when they create energy, work with their bodies and sense organs. And their internal energy is their consciousness as spirit souls. But in the end, human beings move and do work with their minute free will and with their desire that comes from their spirit(internal energy). So the source of their external energy is their spirit (their internal energy). And as a result all these spirits are Lord's internal energies."
I want to make a similitude to explain the subject matter to the very beginners about who we are and that's the aim of my question.
Your servant,
in this material world soul's action is only to desire. Soul does not act anyhow. Our body and mind is acted by the wish of the soul and by the sanction of Paramatma with the action of Demigods.
For example, i - soul desires to move up the hand and by the sanction of Paramatma Demigods move our hand. And it is with all of our actions. Moved by 3 modes of material energy.
And yes, that consciousness is the symptom of the soul.
But because our soul is covered by false ego "I" and "mine" our pure desires get perverted because of that our actions are just for our selfish need.
But know by chanting - using our ears - we want to remove that false ego.
Your servant,
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