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If the soul has a form then why is it given a body by Krishna ?

Posted by Mihir on July 2, 2013 at 3:21pm in Krishna

Hare Krishna dear devotees,

Shrila Prabhupada said that the soul has a form. Though the form of the soul is in an unmanifest form still it manifests from the soul so ultimately the form is of the soul. However in Brahma Samhita it is said that Shrimati Radharani expands as everyone's body in Vrindavana. This information is very contradictory because if the soul already has a form then why does Shrimati Radharani expand as everyone's body in Vrindavana ? I request someone to guide me with my query.

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Mihir.

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    Mohini Madhavi dd Maral Alymova July 3, 2013 at 12:35pm

    please read here Mihir Prabhuji http://www.iskcondesiretree.net/forum/topics/soul?commentId=2103886...

    Jagadatma Prabhuji gave the text from Srila Prabhupada where he nicely explained the truth about soul and Krishna.

    Hare Krsna Mataji, I have been associaed with ISKCon a few year and heard from many of the learned and senior vaisnavas. This is all from the shastras, I have read these things too. I'll try to give you some quotations.

    Devotee: Prabhupäda? You said that spirit soul is one ten-thousandth the tip of a hair. In the spiritual sky, is the spirit soul still just that big?
    Prabhupäda: That is his constitutional position. Either in the spiritual sky or material sky, he's the same. But as you develop in the material world a material body, similarly in the spiritual world you can develop a spiritual body. You follow? Your position is that small particle, but spirit can expand. This expansion in the material world is being done in contact with matter. And in the spiritual world, that expansion can be done in spirit. Here in the material world I am spirit soul. I am different from this body because this body is matter and I am living. I am living force, but this material body is not living force. And in the spiritual world there is everything living force. There is no dead matter. Therefore the body is also spiritual. Just like water with water, water, that's all. But water and oil—distinction. Similarly, I am spirit soul, I am the oil. So I am in the water, so there is distinction. But if I am put into the oil, then everything's all right. So the impersonalists, they do not develop body. They simply remain as spirit particle. That is their idea. But we Vaisnava, we want to serve Krsna, therefore we require hands, legs and mouth and tongue, everything. So we are giving such body. As you are getting this body from the womb of the mother, similarly we get body in the spiritual world. Not from the womb of the mother, but there is process to get, you can get.

    Bhagavad-gitä 6.1
    —Los Angeles, February 13, 1969 Better you read the whole class and quetions. Was also in BTG

    Krsna's age, His transcendental bodily features, His beauty and His mildness are qualities pertaining to His body. There is no difference between Krsna and His body, and therefore the transcendental features pertaining to His body are the same as Krsna Himself. But because these qualities stimulate the devotee's ecstatic love, they have been analyzed as separate causes of that love. To be attracted by the qualities of Krsna means to be attracted by Kåñëa Himself, because there is no real distinction between Krsnaa and His qualities. Kåñëa's name is also Krsna. Krsna's fame is also Krsnaa. Krsna's entourage is also Krsna. Krsna and everything related with Krsna which gives stimulation to love of Krsna are all Krsna, but for our understanding these items may be considered separately. NOD 26

    So the entourage means all His eternal associates The Gopis and the Gopas and the cows the yamuna and vrndavan are all Krsna's swarupa shakti. So if you accept service to Krsna your present body becomes Krsnerised. and with that Krsnerised boby subtle and gross the material ego is completely meted away and even in this world you will be in a spiritual body. And in The spiritual world the form will be according to your own bhava. There are so many points in shastra to make this clearer. Brahma samhita has many. hare Krsna

    Your servant, 

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    Gourab Saha July 2, 2013 at 9:40pm

    Body of Krishna means what I think, a spiritual body which is qualitatively one with Krishna, i.e. an eternally blissful body, sat-cid-ananda vigraha, like Krishna. It is already dere lying dormant. We have to revive it through Krishna Cosnciousness.

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    Gourab Saha July 2, 2013 at 9:27pm

    Hare Krishna !!! Prabhu, I would try to answer this question with the little knowledge I have. The spiritual realm of Goloka and its denizens are expansions of Radharani who are meant to give Krishna pleasure as Bhaktin Maral mataji has rightly pointed out. They are all nitya siddhas, therefore they never come under the spell of maya and they are eternally serving Krishna in Goloka. The nitya siddhas are direct expansions of Krishna's Hladini shakti or pleasure potency. However we, individual souls are not expansions of Hladini Shakti but Tatastha Shakti or marginal potency. We have our forms but theses forms are not expansions of Radharani. We are baddha jivas and we try to approach Krishna by taking shelter of Krishna's pleaure potency, Radharani. Then only we can reach Goloka. So the soul which is sometimes unmanifest and sometimes manifest are the souls that are expnasions of Krishna's Tatstha Shakti or marginal potency. This is not the case with the nitya siddhas who are direct expansions of Radharani and are eternally serving Krishna in Goloka. If we take shelter of the nitya siddhas, we will also be liberated and then we can eternally serve Krishna in Goloka.

    Your most insignificant servant,

    Hare Krishna !!

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    Mohini Madhavi dd Maral Alymova July 2, 2013 at 4:17pm

    Here it is said about Gopis who are expansions of Srimati Radharani. Gopis like Lalita, Vishakha, and other main Gopis. So they are Srimati Radharani's expansions. Even Chandravali is Her expansion. 

    So She expands Herself into unlimited forms in order to give pleasure to Krishna. 

    But we are not Krishna's internal energy. We are His marginal energy. We have our own form. 

    And we will be only servants of Srimati Radharani. 

    Your servant, 

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    Mohini Madhavi dd Maral Alymova July 2, 2013 at 3:40pm

    Hare Krishna Mihir Prabhuji, please accept my humble obeisances! All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

    please could You give that shloka from Brahma Samhita!

    Thank You!

    Your servant, 

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