Hare Krsna!!
All Glories to Srila Prabhupada!!
Hello. I watched a a debate on youtube by Bhakti Rasamrita Swami validating the fact that God has form, Here. He says that only from form can come formlessness, not the other way around like some people believe. I have been arguing with a friend of mine for quite some time and I need to make some stronger points. Can anyone recommend some strong arguments i can use? The argument is that by giving God form you are limiting him. I'd appreciate any comments. Thank you. Jai
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Hare Krsna Prabhuji,
PAMHO.
I vaguely remember one incident that happened in a Gulf country airport (I think with HH Radhanath Maharaj). The senior airport official was talking with Maharaj (flight was delayed) and in the middle stopped to offer namaz. Maharaj subtly asked him - will your God hear your prayers - to which he answered yes. Then Maharaj asked, will He answer your prayers - to which he replied yes. Then Maharaj asked, can He see everyone - again answer was yes.
Then Maharaj said - so your God can see, hear, answer prayers, then how is He formless?
Something to this effect.
By saying God is formless, we are limiting God. We are not even attributing a form to God. He has got form, the formless is the effulgence around Him whihc itself can stop anyone from seeing Him.
I hope this helps.
Haribol,
YOur servant,
Radha Rasamayi DD
Hare Krishna Prabhu,
Your friends argument is "by giving GOD form you are limiting him".
But it is other way around,
But not accepting the GOD has from you are making him limited.Limited than human being.
If we have form then why can't GOD has a form.If you say GOD can't have form then you are saying his power is limit.He can't do something which we can do.
Scriptures says Janmady asya yathah - GOD is the source of everything.
So,what ever we can see in this world difinitly GOD is the source.Without krishna having this form we can't have.Just like we got this from because our mother and father has a form.So,Form comes from form.It is very simple and logical.
But GOD is all powerful and he can do anything and everything without anyones help.So,why can't he has form.
In Bible It is said " God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them." Genisis 1.27
In Bagavat Gita krishna said ,
Chapter 7: Knowledge of the Absolute
manyante mam abuddhayah
param bhavam ajananto
mamavyayam anuttamam
SB 3.29.36 — This puruṣa whom the individual soul must approach is the eternal form of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, who is known as Brahman and Paramātmā. He is the transcendental chief personality, and His activities are all spiritual.
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We can see here there that Supreme Personality of Godhead is known as impersonal Brahman and Paramatma, therefore there is no difference between them. Those who knows that knows God as He really is.
SB 1.2.11 — Learned transcendentalists who know the Absolute Truth call this nondual substance Brahman, Paramātmā or Bhagavān.
This three eternal aspects of God, bhagavan, param brahman and param atma are never born, they always existed, and because of that, its impossible to talk about birth of one or another.