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          • Hare Krsna.

            Jai Prabhupada

            PAMHO.

             

            We should not take the association of non devotees. But we should give them our association so that they can also be devotees.

             

            Your servant

             

  • Volunteer
    yes, only chanting can prevent us from the association of non devotees. Srila Prabhupada promises us that while going out if we finish all our 16 then Maya won't dare to come near to us!
    • hare krishna mataji dandvat plz accept my humble obeisances! agtsp thaks for giving me association it was very useful for me,i will try to follow it thanks hare krishna 

      your servant-Devashish 

  • Volunteer
    Bhaktin Maral mataji, you mean 99.9% non devotees?

    Yes only 1 in a 1000 people are attracted to Krishna.
    Only way to bring the ones who are attracted to Krishna. Haridas Takore explains how to go about doing it, in Harinama Cintamani, without committing the 7th offense or Namaparada, TO INSTRUCT THE GLORIES OF THE HOLY NAME TO THE FAITHLESS (ASRADDADHANA VIMUKHE'PY ASRNVATI)

    Namacharya Srila Haridas Takore explains...

    ""This the way by which the whole world will be inundated

    with the chanting of the holy name: with loud congregational

    chanting, the holy name is to be propagated widely among the

    masses. Those who are faithful will come forward and choose a

    bona fide spiritual master, receiving instructions and initiation

    in the name from him. By sincere chanting they will surely

    obtain love of Godhead, Krsnaprema."
  • Volunteer
    Hare Krishna dear Devotees,
    There are only 99.9 % of people of this Earth planet are Devotees. In this way most of times we are surrounded with non devotees. And above things which i wrote was some kind of adjustment for the present situation.
    only few years ago we also were eating meat, doing nonsense but by seeing good qualities of Devotees we started to chant the Holy Names.
    here i meant we should not be aggressive towards non devotees, but to help them to become Krishna Conscious. How we can do that?
    we set an example of a real gentlemen. it does not mean that we try to do those things which they do but to attract them with that life style which we follow.
    Your servant,
  • Volunteer
    Usually we have something in common with the people who we associate with. Perhaps we used to play cards or go out drinking or watching useless movies... what ever it is that we had in common prior to Hari (Stealer of hearts) stole your heart... when you stop doing those activities, automatically these good times friends will fall off. If they are your genuine friends, a 1 in a 100 chance, they will want to find out what made you change and open themselves to Krishna Consciousness.
    Don't ever fall prey to going back to old ways by associating with them.
    Haribol
    • thank you too prji hare krishna dandvat your servant-devashish

  • Volunteer
    I beg to differ with Bhaktin Maral on giving your association to non devotees if you are new, do not get associated with nondevotees unless you are chanting 16 rounds of mala and performing nagar sankirtana (Following 1st instruction of Mahaprabhu)

    Nectar of Instruction:
    TEXT TWO
    atyaharah prayasas ca
    prajalpo niyamagrahah
    jana-sangas ca laulyam ca
    sadbhir bhaktir vinasyati
    ati-aharah--overeating or too much collecting; prayasah--
    overendeavoring; ca--and; prajalpah--idle talking; niyama--rules and
    regulations; agrahah--too much attachment to (or agrahah--too much
    neglect of); jana-sangah--association with worldly-minded persons; ca--
    and; laulyam--ardent longing or greed; ca--and; sadbhih--by these six;
    bhaktih--devotional service; vinasyati--is destroyed.
    TRANSLATION
    One's devotional service is spoiled when he becomes too entangled
    in the following six activities: (1) eating more than necessary or
    collecting more funds than required; (2) overendeavoring for mundane
    things that are very difficult to obtain; (3) talking unnecessarily
    about mundane subject matters; (4) Practicing the scriptural rules and
    regulations only for the sake of following them and not for the sake of
    spiritual advancement, or rejecting the rules and regulations of the
    scriptures and working independently or whimsically; (5) associating
    with worldly-minded persons who are not interested in Krsna
    conscionsness; and (6) being greedy for mundane achievements.

    Bhagavad-gita (9.13):
    mahatmanas tu mam partha
    daivim prakrtim asritah
    bhajanty ananya-manaso
    jnatva bhutadim avyayam
    "O son of Prtha, those who are not deluded, the great souls, are
    under the protection of the divine nature. They are fully engaged in
    devotional service because they know Me as the Supreme Personality of
    Godhead, original and inexhaustible."
    Since all the devotees of the Lord are under the protection of His
    supreme potency, they should not deviate from the path of devotional
    service and take to the path of the karmi, jnani or yogi. This is called
    utsahan niscayad dhairyat tat-tat-karma-pravartanat, enthusiastically
    executing the regulative activities of devotional service with patience
    and confidence. In this way one can advance in devotional service
    without hindrance.
  • Volunteer
    Hare Krishna Devashish Soni Prabhu,
    Please accept my humble obeisances!
    All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

    We should respect them as much as possible. i see the next differences between Devotees and Non devotees.
    Devotees are:
    --- attentive
    --- kind
    --- not egoistic
    --- pride less
    --- care taker
    --- always ready to help and to serve
    --- sweet worded
    --- sincere, honest, not dualistic
    ...
    But Non devotees:
    --- egoistic
    --- their whole love associations stay on the philosophy: you give me then i will give to you. serve to me, take care of me, listen to me, respect me...if you do not do that i do not love you...
    --- they are attentive
    --- they are full for pride
    --- they do not respect others more than themselves
    ...
    here we have to understand that only being kind to them, trying to help them, we can make them even Devotees.
    Everyone in this world needs love and attention, care. We have to help them without waiting for something back.
    For example, we may offer some Prasad, ask how they feel today, do they need any help in life, or at least to say some inspiring words, or smile.
    When they start to trust to us then they will start to listen to us. When they listen us they will start to follow what do they listen.
    Do not take their association--as like when they talk about illicit things just go to a side, but try to give your association.
    When person respects others, and does not wait for anything for himself he becomes dear to everyone not even to Devotees.
    We can give something valuable for others when we stop waiting for taking something from them. Mostly we can not preach to our parents, because we have egoism, we wait for money from them etc. but when we become depended on Krishna we can preach even to them and make them Devotees.
    Do not hate non devotees. Just try to see the Super soul in their heart and them also as souls. Some day they will also become Devotees.
    Your servant,
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