hare krsna,
I have read in srila prbhupad books that bhakti is not sentiments
how can one offer loving devotional service to lord without sentiments?
people say that without knowledge of lord we can't maintain sentiments to lord so a basic knolwdge is required. without this basic knowledge bhakti is mere sentiments. but i wanna know how can one become interested to get knowlwdge if he has no emotions.
we can see 3 kinds of people frm sp books
karmis, yogis, gyanis and bhaktas
karmi gerts fruitful result of their actions
yogis for mystic powers
gyanis are for high purposes but still thy hve some material wishes
but bhaktas have no other work than loving their god, how can thy do bhakti without sentiments. if it is said bhakti is not sentiments then it means bhakti is penetrating into the region of gyanis, karmis, yogis. how can bhakti have its own seprate value if it requires gyan to get dveloped.
i hope my doubt is cleared and easy to understnd
thnx to read me
hare krsna
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Without ecstatic sentiments in relationship with Krishna, one can only dream about reaching Goloka Vrindhavana. No doubt in that.
No, that's not my point, listen carefully and you may understand:
According to Gaudiya Vaishnavism, Hare Krishna mahamantra is not different from Krishna, and Om is not different from Krishna. But they are both different at the same time, because chanting om brings you to impersonal Brahman, and chanting hare Krishna mahamantra brings you to Goloka Vrindhavana, abode of Lord Krishna.
Such philosophy is called acintya bheda abheda, which literally means inconceivable one-ness and difference. That philosophy is not only considering relationship between God and jivas, but many other subjects, such as relationship between Hare Krishna mahamantra and om.
Hare Krishna mahamantra and om are simultaneously same and different, like God and living beings :)
That's acintya bheda abheda philosophy, at the same time same and different :)
Yes, bhakti is far superior to knowledge, because Lord is very attracted with love for Him. That's why uneducated cowgirls and cowboys of Vraja achieved personal association and special mercy of Lord.
towards the Servent/ -Chanter. As the #1 service chanting, is the most suitable & most (Spiritually correct) approach & service one can offer twords pleasing Krishna or Vishnu. Because as created beings service is (our eternal) constitutional position.i.e. proper/only viable/working/possable -relationship! So although scolership & offerings & many other forms of association are effectively benafishal for the performers, seldom are they of a qulity or accually a requirement of the HeadGods themselfs. I.e. less atrative.However, this Chanting of their Names is
'All Attractive, endearing for all, & espeshelly by it's "Heart-softening" propensity it has Spontaineus "Un-conditioning results on theheart & state of mind. So No" knowledge is required to re-awaken our faith' or awareness of God's Sovern authoritys over Hi's Creation or to re-establish that "most importent, & (most significant of bonds') except this CHANTING. It is the highest, & most relishable form of devotion & sava's the only pre-request! There is
"No other way, no other way"
Please chant properly!
The sintament involved in the bhakty practice in my opinion is entirely Self centred, by intelligently engaging the body & mind into the service these divine associations we are having intiment sentimental compassion on our own self/eternalSouls. Because of our understanding that the complete consumation of the infinite & eternal energies derived from/& evolked by our mutuel or (shared awairness between the HeadGods & ourselves is ("the Only') fullfilling plesher, for the eternal soul!
Knowing this we pray/chant!
"O Krishna O" ahddiNarinah we know you as the seed & the root of all creations, we understand that you are Omni potent Omni Present & Omni Magnificent & therefore, we understand that You are therefore, everything! Sri Vishnu Sri Vishnu Sri Vishnu Om Tat Sat!
Feeling
Thankful to all Bhaktees for your association. All glorys to (HH)Srila Prahbupodda. 1000'trellion thumbs-high to ISKCON & it's BHAKTES! Haray nahmah hare Nahmah Hay Nahmah. .
Mayavadi sannyasies accused Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu to be sentimentalist :
CC Ādi 7.40 — While Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu was passing through Vārāṇasī on His way to Vṛndāvana, the Māyāvādī sannyāsī philosophers blasphemed against Him in many ways.
CC Ādi 7.41 — The blasphemers said, “Although a sannyāsī, He does not take interest in the study of Vedānta but instead always engages in chanting and dancing in saṅkīrtana.
CC Ādi 7.42 — “This Caitanya Mahāprabhu is an illiterate sannyāsī and therefore does not know His real function. Guided only by His sentiments, He wanders about in the company of other sentimentalists.”
CC Ādi 7.43 — Hearing all this blasphemy, Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu merely smiled to Himself, rejected all these accusations and did not talk with the Māyāvādīs.
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The same accusations we can hear nowadays, the only difference is that mayavadis changed their cloths.
Bhakti without sentiment is like the meal without being able to taste it.
Only those who are able to taste the fruits of bhakti, considered to have awaken transcendental love for Lord.
Yes. Bhakti is not sentiment does not point to Bhakti is without bhava or any feeling. I feel meaning of this sentence is incomplete and may be misunderstood by quoting only this sentence "Bhakti is not sentiment". Rather we also need to look into the context of the discussions in which this sentence appeared. Gadadhar das Prabhuji has already shared them.
- Jai Shri Krishna !! Jai Bhakt Prahlad ki Jai !!
In Bg. 4.10, Krishna says that many persons who were freed from attachment, fear and anger, fully absorbed in Him, who took refuge in Him, and who purified by knowledge about Him, attained love for Him. Therefore He doesn't said, that love for Him needs the knowledge about Him.
Anyway, one should learn that pure devotional service surpasses knowledge and detachment.
Bhakti is transcendental and do not have anything to do with dharma or religion, that's why even animals and uneducated humans, can achieve it.
Anyway, if knowledge have been required for achieving the love for Lord, then gopis, gopals, cows, trees and bushes of Vraja, would not not be able to achieve it.
Singing holy name of Lord is sufficient for achieving the love for Lord, even without cultivating any spiritual knowledge, but it requires association and mercy of Lord, or of a those who carry the Lord deep in their hearts.
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