Hare Krishna to all devotees ,,Please solve my doubtWhen one try to act in Krishna consciousness he try to follow rules and regulations. In other word when one engages himself in devotional service, supersoul or paramatma within ones heart becomes more and more active and he takes charge of devotees every activity . The activities that devotee performs is only the will of the supersoul .But when someone falls down from service its spontaneous that he will continues his life with his old ways. So in such a case does paramatma or supersoul gives such a direction to someone to resume sense gratification and be a karmi again???
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Nice question. You see , for us to be sincere devotees and follow the regulated life, we have to be free from sin (Karmic reaction). We all have many lifetimes of reactions lying within our hearts. As long as these reactions dont follow their natural conclusion and expire, we are held by their influence. So it may be that a good devotee flounders from the rigid path, and it may appear to us (materialictically) that he has fallen back into Maya. But in reality he is only be diverted temporarily from devotional life to fulfill his numerous Karmic desires from many lifetimes.
But because he has in this lifetime surrendered to Krsna, Krsna will steer him out of materialictic karmic life and bring him to pure devotional life. Though it may not be in this one lifetime (maybe more than 100 lifetimes), BUT eventually when his karmic reaction is exhausted (by Krsna's influence) and he becomes pure, he will be able in that lifetime to carry out pure devotional service and return to Krsna (to his origin).
Thanks for the question Jaykishor Pr, and thanks for the reply maral mtj.
just adding a few points,
In BG, Krishna Explains the concept of soul and supersoul through an analogy of 2 birds sitting on a tree. The bird compared to the soul just observes the activities of the other bird eating the fruits. Similarly, The soul is enjoying and suffering the fruits of its action, which the supersoul watches silently and waiting when this soul will turn towards me. Because freewill is always given to the soul.
Coming to the second part of your question, Why some people leave KC, there may be many reasons for ex:
They are not executing the process properly, they are doing some or the other hypocrisy. Because the process is perfect, no doubt, but the problem is with the people's minds.
Secondly offending devotees is one of the major cause of falldown from Spiritual life, when someone offends devotees, Krsna himself removes that person from association so that he will not offend more and will not get further reactions, this is one type of mercy He shows.
If freewill is misused, definitely it is not the fault of the supersoul, because if someone becomes a sincere devotee he will never leave the process. But if sincerity is lacking, then he gets attracted to Maya.
As prabhupada says in Science of Self realization , " This process is such that anyone who follows it sincerely is forcefully dragged to success."
Hare Krishna Jaykishor Prabhu, please accept my humble obeisances! All glories to Srila Prabhupada!
Each of us has free will and this won't be taken away even by Paramatma Himself.
If we cultivate our material desires thinking of them then one day Paramatma gives sanction to try to fulfill your desires. In order you yourself understand that it is not good, it is not correct.
just now got a letter from my comrade Devotee, who in the beginning was a very good Devotee: chanting minimum 16 rounds, Mangala Arati, but due to weakness fell in love with a karmi girl. Lived with her...Devotees were shocked, but kept praying not hurting him or criticizing him.
But today he writes that she left her and never ever wants to come back to him. and now only he understood that to have a Vaishnavi wife is far more better than to any other super - hipper photo model or something like that.
Paramatma is merciful, if a Devotee felt even once the nectarine of the Holy Names then he never ever can not be satisfied with lower, mundane things. Later or sooner he will come back again.
While performing our service we should avoid thinking of material desires other wise we will fall. on the contrary we have to pray to Devotees and Krishna to help us to give higher taste.
Your servant,
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Nice question. You see , for us to be sincere devotees and follow the regulated life, we have to be free from sin (Karmic reaction). We all have many lifetimes of reactions lying within our hearts. As long as these reactions dont follow their natural conclusion and expire, we are held by their influence. So it may be that a good devotee flounders from the rigid path, and it may appear to us (materialictically) that he has fallen back into Maya. But in reality he is only be diverted temporarily from devotional life to fulfill his numerous Karmic desires from many lifetimes.
But because he has in this lifetime surrendered to Krsna, Krsna will steer him out of materialictic karmic life and bring him to pure devotional life. Though it may not be in this one lifetime (maybe more than 100 lifetimes), BUT eventually when his karmic reaction is exhausted (by Krsna's influence) and he becomes pure, he will be able in that lifetime to carry out pure devotional service and return to Krsna (to his origin).
Hare Krsna!!
Hare Krishna,
Thanks for the question Jaykishor Pr, and thanks for the reply maral mtj.
just adding a few points,
In BG, Krishna Explains the concept of soul and supersoul through an analogy of 2 birds sitting on a tree. The bird compared to the soul just observes the activities of the other bird eating the fruits. Similarly, The soul is enjoying and suffering the fruits of its action, which the supersoul watches silently and waiting when this soul will turn towards me. Because freewill is always given to the soul.
Coming to the second part of your question, Why some people leave KC, there may be many reasons for ex:
They are not executing the process properly, they are doing some or the other hypocrisy. Because the process is perfect, no doubt, but the problem is with the people's minds.
Secondly offending devotees is one of the major cause of falldown from Spiritual life, when someone offends devotees, Krsna himself removes that person from association so that he will not offend more and will not get further reactions, this is one type of mercy He shows.
If freewill is misused, definitely it is not the fault of the supersoul, because if someone becomes a sincere devotee he will never leave the process. But if sincerity is lacking, then he gets attracted to Maya.
As prabhupada says in Science of Self realization , " This process is such that anyone who follows it sincerely is forcefully dragged to success."
Each of us has free will and this won't be taken away even by Paramatma Himself.
If we cultivate our material desires thinking of them then one day Paramatma gives sanction to try to fulfill your desires. In order you yourself understand that it is not good, it is not correct.
just now got a letter from my comrade Devotee, who in the beginning was a very good Devotee: chanting minimum 16 rounds, Mangala Arati, but due to weakness fell in love with a karmi girl. Lived with her...Devotees were shocked, but kept praying not hurting him or criticizing him.
But today he writes that she left her and never ever wants to come back to him. and now only he understood that to have a Vaishnavi wife is far more better than to any other super - hipper photo model or something like that.
Paramatma is merciful, if a Devotee felt even once the nectarine of the Holy Names then he never ever can not be satisfied with lower, mundane things. Later or sooner he will come back again.
While performing our service we should avoid thinking of material desires other wise we will fall. on the contrary we have to pray to Devotees and Krishna to help us to give higher taste.
Your servant,