-its very clear that regulative principles came from srimad bhagavatam :
SB 1.17.38
sūta uvāca
abhyarthitas tadā tasmai
sthānāni kalaye dadau
dyūtaṁ pānaṁ striyaḥ sūnā
yatrādharmaś catur-vidhaḥ
sthānāni kalaye dadau
dyūtaṁ pānaṁ striyaḥ sūnā
yatrādharmaś catur-vidhaḥ
Sūta Gosvāmī said: Mahārāja Parīkṣit, thus being petitioned by the personality of Kali, gave him permission to reside in places where gambling, drinking, prostitution and animal slaughter were
performed.
-but there is fifth regulative principle to :
SB 1.17.39
punaś ca yācamānāya
jāta-rūpam adāt prabhuḥ
tato ’nṛtaṁ madaṁ kāmaṁ
rajo vairaṁ ca pañcamam
jāta-rūpam adāt prabhuḥ
tato ’nṛtaṁ madaṁ kāmaṁ
rajo vairaṁ ca pañcamam
Translation:
The personality of Kali asked for something more, and because of his begging, the King gave him permission to live where there is gold because wherever there is gold there is also falsity, intoxication, lust, envy and enmity.
--sanskrit word pamcamam , mean fifth place for kali.
--gold in vedic time was the same what money represents now,
--so ,its clear that devotees should avoid building money ,
because where is a money ,there is kali to.
--i was always wander why nobody ever mentioned fifth place of kali,
as fifth regulative principle for devotees of krishna.
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Hare Krishna Prabhu,
All glories to Srila Prabhupada
To me four regulative principles are like four pillars of our bodily shelter which is minimum ( MUST have)
adding additional pillar will make your shelter more robust.
Same as chanting 16 rounds is minimum but we can chant more than that no restriction .
I am just a beginner and I am learning lot from these forums .
Please forgive me for my mistakes .
Hari Bol
Umesh
Hare Krishna,
Dear Prabhuji,
Money is essential for devotees and to maintain the bodily needs of food, clothing and shelter. However beyond that splurging of money for one's own sense gratification, accumulating it more than required, not giving surplus money we have in charity to the needy and for spiritual purposes is known as Maya. That same money which is used for Krishna conscious purposes is Laxmi. So their are only 4 regulative principles and not 5 because gold ornaments should be only made to decorate deities of the Supreme Lord and not used for our own purposes is real Laxmi.
Hari Bol,
Regards,
Veerendra
Prabhu,
To be fair, his posts had become offensive. Let the administrators do their job, and we will do our job. So is it that your posts are in line with the philosophy this time so that the administrators dont ban you, or you really believe waht you are quoting? Same Srimad Bhagawatam was there one year ago also no.
You are quite a secretive person - nothing is known about you and you will not reveal even when asked. I wonder.....
Haribol,
Rashmi
Prabhu,
I am not being disrespectful at all. I am only remembering that time, you wil recall the number of posts I was giving about no onion, no garlic and he kept on arguing, and you kept on supporting. I had written a specific post to you to not mislead newcomers. Thats why I found this post very heartening.
Just remembering the past, not showing down anyone. Nobody is my devotee, therefore they dont need a certificate from me. We are all trying to be the lord's devotee, therefore, the certificate should be and is always from the lord.
Haribol,
Rashmi
Hare Krsna Prabhuji,
PAMHO.
Thank you for this post. Coming from someone who had major arguments on vegeterianism and was actually supportng a certain Subhas Anjuru prabhu. That poor neophyte actually believed you and eventually left this website thinking none of us understood Srila Prabhupada's teachings better than him.
Atleast all the other new devotees on the forum are spared. It is heartening to note this post, really.
Haribol,
Your servant,
Rashmi