Hare Krishna ,

A initiated devotee did flirting with a girl devotee , non stop ..

Now this girl devotee was very careful of this initiated disciple ..

She have left Krsna Counciousness now ..

This experience was felt at many temple ,

is not initiated disciple be responsible ..

what is the use of initiation then ..?

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    Hare Krishna dear Devotees, please accept my humble obeisances! All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

    It says that if we protect dharma, then dharma will protect us.

    Once there was a person who used to live fully according to Vedic dharma. But once he fell down from high roof. While on the air he cried out: "If one protects dharma then dharma also should protect one!" And felling down to the ground he just scratched his skin. 

    Then he asked why he had that scratch if he used to live according to dharma. Then reply was: "You told "if" it showed that you had some suspicion of that dharma will protect you."

    Having full faith into Krishna that He will protect us no one can disturb us besides the will of Krishna.

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    One more story:

    There was a very chaste, beautiful woman. She was going on the street but on her way she saw men. She crossed the way by putting full faith into dharma and men even did not notice her.

    In this way in the reality some girls themselves want to be disturbed by opposite sex. They act accordingly and get result.

    The same with boys.

    But if we are sincere Krishna will protect us from unwanted disturbances. Because Krishna is in everyone's heart. Nothing happens besides His sanction.

    Your servant,  

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      and if still there is a disturbance on this web site, let's immediately inform the admin so that damage would be less!

      Your servant, 

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    Yes Ashwin pr, you are true. "Flirting has been reported on this website also .." I have witnessed it myself. I have often matajis only reply to pr's or just greet them only and much more.

    I think some measures should be taken by IDT in this regard. And also we get to find non-devotees and even at times ur security is being threatened. I remember a devotee, whose account was hacked and the hacker was misusing the account and disturing devotees and it was finally reported to the admin of IDT.

    I think Prabhupada's instruction mentioned on the top of IDT is what really happening.

    "Now we have got so many students and so many temples but I am fearful that if we expand too much in this way that we shall become weakened and gradually the whole thing will become lost. Just like milk. We may thin it more and more with water for cheating the customer, but in the end it will cease to be any longer milk. Better to boil the milk now very vigorously and make it thick and sweet, that is the best process. So let us concentrate on training our devotees very thoroughly in the knowledge of Krishna Consciousness from our books, from tapes, by discussing always, and in so many ways instruct them in the right propositions."  (Srila Prabhupada's letter June 22, 1972)

    Your servant

    Priya

  • Yes that's exactly why I had deactivated my profile once, never expected the kind of behaviour from KC women. But I was missing all the beautiful posts very much so I'm back!! :)) From now on i will not add any Mataji unless I know them! HARI BOL!! 

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    Dear ashwani pr,

    those 'devotees' who do such kind of things due to which other people leave Krsna consciousness, they will not be spared. Krsna will be even more angry with such people cuz it is a responsibility of a person under ISKCON banner to bring people to Krsna Consciousness and not do things due to which people go out of Krsna Consciousness.

    But please, if you can, then please somehow or the other tell that girl devotee that this ' initiated devotee' is not a proper representative of KRSNA and ISKCON. She should complain about him to the temple authorities and also maintain complete distance from him.Actually our movement is so big, and all types of people come. Many are there with strong past conditioning and they carry those conditioning even after coming to KRSNA CONSCIOUSNESS. So such people have to be taken care of properly by informing their authorities. 

    KRSNA CONSCIOUSNESS is a gift of KRSNA and RADHARANI to us and it is OUR BELOVED LIFE NOW, PUT UNDER OUR CARE. IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO PRESERVE IT and TAKE CARE OF IT. JUST BECAUSE SOME ONE IS WRONG AND SOME PEOPLE ARE WRONG , WE SHOULD NOT LEAVE KRSNA CONSCIOUSNESS. I HAVE PERSONALLY UNDERGONE SUCH EXTREME TESTS, WHAT CAN I SAY... BUT SOMEHOW OR THE OTHER WITH MERCY OF HH RADHANATH MAHRAJ and SOME OTHER SENIOR DEVOTEES, I WAS ABLE TO CONTINUE..

    About this 'disciple',SOME PEOPLE MIGHT BE LIKE THIS, THEY ARE ON THE WAY TO PURIFICATION. WE SHOULD MAINTAIN COMPLETE DISTANCE FROM SUCH PEOPLE.. BUT LEAVING KRSNA CONSCIOUSNESS IS NOT THE SOLUTION, WE HAVE DONE DAMAGE TO OURSELVES BY LEAVING KRSNA CONSICOUSNESS.

    DO TELL HER THAT KRSNA CONSCIOUSNESS IS A GIFT TO US, just because there ARE SUCH PEOPLE, WE SHOULD NOT LEAVE KRSNA CONSC.. INSTEAD WE SHOULD TAKE IT WITH EVEN MORE ENTHUSIASM THAT THERE ARE SUCH PEOPLE ALSO, NOW I WILL BE EVEN MORE CAREFUL...

    Regarding that 'devotee' being initiated, i have seen such people too. We should immediately complain about such people to senior authorities. As i said, lots of people come with very strong conditioning. So we should be careful about whom we are associating with. We need to be extra careful in this regard, as I myself have seen lots of cases. GETTING KRSNA IS NOT EASY PR, WE ARE TESTED AT EACH AND EVERY STEP. OUR FAITH IS TESTED AND SO MANY OTHER TESTS COME UP... This is what i have seen in my experience. We have to be sincere and really very sincere to get to the last level..

    Hope this helps

    YS

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