I was a devotee of Krsna ,
I used to chant Hare Krsna Mahamantra , but i had always a fear of falling and most due to
lust ( which i cannot overcome now ) , I am unable to controll my senses i am falling ,all my devotional service have been ruined due to not following of regulative principle .
I am not able to control illicit sex in this age of youth , i sometimes chant mahamatra 10 to 12 rounds but in night i fall for my senses , this is happening daily , i have given up T.V and everything but as i see some beautiful girl my senses start taking pleasure , earlier i associated with devotees i felt myself controlled ,but a kind of fear have set in my mind if i ever become alone i will fall down for sure .
I have become mad for sexual pleasure , but i am feeling frustration for all this ,
i seek your help , now you pick me or let me die .
Earlier i used to feel bad for having illicit thing ,but as it have grown up the grief have gone and now i do not have control over my mind .
I have posted this ,thinking you will help me , i know i should not have posted in public but sorry i am dying of sense gratification , i wonder how devotees satisfy their senses ,do not they feel fear of falling to situation .
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Hare Krishna dear Devotees, please accept my humble obeisances, all glories to Srila Prabhupada!
it means our senses are idle. If we do not engage our senses in the service of Deities and Devotees they will do everything in order to satsify themselves.
Prabhuji, here You should take some responsibilities. For example, responsibility of worshiping Deities of Gour Nitay according to strict Pancharatra pradipa rules. Or else to think of getting married and take care of wife and children.
Sexual desire mostly is reduced when one begets a child. So it is another option.
AGAIN RESPONSIBILITY!
Is very important thing.
Young men according to Vaishnava etiquette whould live in the ashram of his Guru or else if he wants to live outside then he should take responsibility of taking care of wife and children.
Problems accure when we do not obey to the rules and regulations of human life. Western world advertises animal life in order to soak the money from the pockets of poor people and we believe to them and start to live as animals. But it is time for waking up and to take revange and live as a human.
Please engage Your senses in the service of Devotees and Deities and You won't have time for thoughts of girls.
Your servant,
My teacher says we all are fallen .... and just doing BHAJAN some times ..... and this process is such we don't need to worry about your purity .....
MU me RAM NAAM aur bagal mhe chorra is also a great qualification ..... because it is just matter of time ... that knife will some day go away .... but RAM naam will remain ....
Hare Krsna Dear N Khan pji
Please accept my most humble obeisances.
1.If you want, I can give you some lectures ,hearing which will make you get out of all illusion.. Even if your mind agitates while being alone, it will help to some extent to pacify it.
2. Please take a chillly cold water bath,early in the morning and wear the Vaishnava loin cloth so that mind does not get agitated.
3. CHANT DESPERATELY , CRYING FOR KRSNA, GO TO A SECLUDED PLACE AND SHOUT LOUDLY " HARE KRSNA HARE KRSNA KRSNA KRSNA HARE HARE, HARE RAMA HARE RAMA, RAMA RAMA HARE HARE" THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT STEP.
4. When you see any sense object and you have the opportunity to enjoy it, GET OUT , GET OUT OF THAT PLACE, IMMEDIATELY. AS SOON AS YOU SEE A SENSE OBJECT AND YOU HAVE THE CHANCE TO ENJOY IT, A SIREN SHOULD RING IN THE BACK GROUND" DANGER, DANGER, DANGER" AND GET OUT.. GET OUT NOW.. ELSE FALL DOWN .. FALL DOWN FOR SURE.
5. Keep a friend with you EVERY TIME YOU USE INTERNET, Who will correct you if you do wrong...
6.DO NOT STOP CHANTING COME WHAT MAY. CHANT YOUR ROUNDS EVERY DAY WITHOUT FAIL
7. CHANT IN ASSOCIATION OF DEVOTEES.
8. ONCE YOU GET THAT HIGHER TASTE OF CHANTING, ALL MATERIAL PLEASURES WILL BECOME INSIGINIFICANT AND THEN YOUR LIFE WILL BECOME SUBLIME. YOU WILL HAVE CONTROL OVER YOUR SENSES AND YOU WILL GUIDE UR SENSES AND THEY WON'T GUIDE YOU. :)
9. AVOID COMPANY OF PEOPLE WHO TALK USELESS THINGS..
Hear SOME KIRTANS , IF YOU WANT , I CAN GIVE YOU SOME LINKS, HEARING WHICH YOUR MIND WILL GET A HIGHER TASTE AND DESIRE FOR LOWER THINGS WILL GO AWAY..
When you are alone, read some books of Prabhupada, that may help.
Please do not think of dying, Krsna has given this beautiful life. You are at least trying p, people outside are not doing anything, you are so wonderful. You are taking shelter. Krsna is there for all of us to help, do not worry. CHANTING IS EXTREMELY POWERFUL, if we CHANT SINCERELY, ATTENTIVELY, WITHOUT OFFENSES AND WITH RIGHT ATTITUDE. KRSNA will take care of you, you are sincere..
PLEASE DO NOT WORRY, IT WILL TAKE TIME.. IT WILL GO AWAY..
YS..
Hare Krsna: PAMHO:
Never mind you posted your mind out here, that itself shows that you haven't fallen down.
This is the stage of neophyte life in KC and takes a lot of effort from our side to make it to that 10% of the whole 100% devotion, and the rest of 90% of the strength is given to us by Krsna Himself.
This means to take that first 10 steps towards Krsna without any hurdles is a real dream, it is not that easy. For example, take a bucket of water and a stick; now with that stick start rotating the water in particular direction for few seconds, now the entire content of bucket is moving in that direction, be it wrong or right, does not matter, but it is moving. Now, try to reverse that process by using the same stick in opposite direction, you will see some turbulence initially before the water sets its motion in the direction you have given it.
This is exactly our life, it will move in the direction that our mind chooses. The basic idea of KC is to control the mind, not to subdue it in samadhi like they say in Yoga and Meditation classes, but let it move towards spirituality, that is it.
Coming to controlling your senses about sex, suppose you like a particular sweet, you buy it or make it, can you consume it for the whole day ? definitely not, so we have to start disliking that sweet after knowing that it is not good for our spiritual progress.
Our mind and body is prepared in such a way that when you eat certain things, it will act accordingly, for example, too much meat or spice will make our minds stray towards these illicit things which is Tamo Guna and Rajo Guna.
Controlling one's tongue is like winning half of the battle.
Try this for 30 days and let me know;
1. Don't take coffee / tea.
2. Don't take any liquor.
3. Don't take onions / garlic.
4. Don't take spicey foods.
5. Avoid your bad company of friends. When you go online, just visit all the ISKCON websites and read it.
6. When you see a woman, see her feet and not the face, this will help you with false ego and control the lust.
Most of them all, I shall pray for you and ask for all the devotees who read this to pray for Khan's progress in KC life.
Don't worry, the fear of falling and the ego of progressing in KC should be controlled eventually.
As conditioned souls, we cannot do much, we are completely depended on Vaishnavas blessings and Guru's mercy before Krsna opens our files of Karma.
So, try to be humble with everyone, even with animals, never hurt anyone and don't expect good from others.
I don't know if this helped you, but I can only say we have all traveled in the same bus that you are traveling now.
Hare Krsna....