today morning i have seen a dream of shri krishna baal swaroop. i saw the blue coloured full shiny body lord krishna was about 7 years old resting in vishnu aasna. I then went near to him and he was smiling and trying to make me understand something. please assist me to solve the mysterious krishna. hare krishna
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Actually I don't see this big Thing * around "Self Realization" W e know with a little Strech, a yhon & a Smiling-disposition, The HeartChi" will open Heven's Gaits.We know this happens in ShortOrder -Even Sooner with the use of MANTRAS. We also need to have-this divine-help that we Summon thrugh Prelude, Protocol & Prear. So the real "Self Realization is -
"that We mort als need the Immortals. Or become* overly berdoned by our offenses.
The practices are key.
Thank you for your Share.
"The Smile, begins at the corners of the Eyes & progresses to the corners of the mouth, which gradually opens' asNot to alarmOthers" Om TaT SaT
i would like to tell you that in this Kaliyuga , Bhakti Yoga is practically the only way for Self Realization and God Realization as well .
Please do not go on the path of Gyan Yoga ; because it will lead you ultimately to Param-Brahm Jyoti . And after frustration , the spirit souls have to come back to this Mortal World from that imperfect spiritual destination .
By practicing Bhakti Yoga sincerely, one can very quickly realize oneself as well as God or Krishna .
Beyond the temporary Mortal World of universes , there is a spiritual sky ; where there are infinite Spiritual Planets which are all permanent and full of knowledge and bliss . Try to attain that supreme destination .
actually i cant get into the devotion. i am seeking for self realiation for about 7 years. and shri krishna himself told in geeta that main ajanma or avinashi swaroop hote hue bhi apni yog maya k adheen prakat hota hu. or jo mujhe bhajega wo sirf mujhe prapt hoga or m ajanma or avinashi swaroop hu... then i found ki my bhakti and conscious is for the ultimate creator krishna who is ajanma or avinashi.
and repyling to your answer that i m not finding any purpose after self realisation. i dont know what would i feel after self realisation. i just only want to know who i am.
When I read your post, I feel you are just ready to embark on this journey. I have answers to everything you have mentioned.
THe question - WHo Am I? is the beginning of self realisation. When we realise that the purpose of life has to be more than merely eating, sleeping, mating and defending, that animals also do, then we start on the path, then we question, who am I? What am I doing here? What is the purpose of my life?
Creator is one prabhuji, He is saakar (with form) and niraakar (formless) at the same time. This is what I was explaining - Brahman realisation - when we feel God is a light, He is nirakaar, We are actually seeing the effulgence that comes from the lord, Brahmajyoti and think this is the Supreme. Actually, the supreme is a person behind that light. Its like seeing a view from an aircraft, then seeing from rooftop, but to meet the person, one has to enter the room and see face to face. THese are the 3 levels of realisation - brahman, paramatma and bhagavan. All are right. Thats why we gaudiya vaishnavas say God is nirakar as well as sakar at the same time. THis is the achintya bhedabhed philosophy propounded by Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu.
The thing to understand is that we are not this body, we are the soul that resides in the body. Each of us is immortal. The mortal world is temporary, the immortal is the soul and the supersoul.
God is anant - this is also mentioned as one of the characteristics of God in GIta - Ch 2.
Where are you located prabhuji? Maybe I can help you connect with some devotees there.
thank u for your kind assistance. i live in Pragati Nagar, Kotra, Ajmer, Rajasthan.
I would like to continue my conversation being curious, please assist.
i dont feel that anything light like entity is to authenticate the presence of god because the sun, the moon the stars and the million of galaxies are created by god.
the question is that what to realize? God or Self?
the god exists everybody knows it. no forms are required to see god like things.
i am seeking for the truth for many years. i tried and tried.
bas jaan ne me aa raha hai maan ne m nahi aa raha hai.
I am also originally from Rajasthan, though we dont have family there anymore. I have visited Ajmer dargah, had mirchi pakodas there, visited the Brahma temple, stayed overnight.
I am also interested in continuing our conversation.
OK, if you think there is no "light" entity, but you think God is niraakar, formless.
Your question re whom to realise - God or self. Its like this - if you realise God, then there is no need to realise self, because we are part and parcel of God, a small subset of God. Hum unke ansh hain. If we realise self, then also we will understand that we are part and parcel of God, and we have a relationship with God, which we have forgotten and need to revive. Both will lead to the same result.
God exists and has a form, as per authorities. Anyways, at this stage, I dont want to get into form or formless. Let us first agree that God exists, then we will take it forward.
It is because you are seeking truth that you have come this far.
I can show you the path forward. It is upto you to walk on it or not.
PLease tell me more about yourself - whether you are a student, family man, what work you do.... etc so that I can give more personalised direction.
Re - bas jaan ne mein aa raha hai, maan ne mein nahi - yeh to apne pichle janmo ke anarth hain. Inko dur karna ke liye 2 cheeze karni hain - agar aap maane. To translate - you mentioned that you are getting knowledge, but not able to accept it. My reply is that this is because of past life anarthas. The way out is to do 2 things if you agree - 1) Chant Hare Krsna Mahamantra, min 4 rounds daily, for the next 6 months. This has to be chanted without fail, every single day for the next 6 months. 2) Read Bhagavad Gita As It Is in a language of your choice everyday.
Do this for 6 months and see the difference yourself. If you think you wasted your time, you can come and kill me, I will not object.
Ppls do what I have suggested - chant mahamantra 4 rounds daily, it will take half an hour of your time, and read Gita everyday for 6 months. You will feel teh difference.
In that period, you can come to this forum and ask whatever questions come to you, or what you cant understand in Gita.
i found that there are two forms of creator. one is saakar and one is nirakaar. saakar is time bounded and nirakar is timeless. the mortal form of life has the limited love happiness anger etc. kind of emotions. and i wanted to attain the condition which never changes, then i found that there is no any mortal thing that is always exists and available for all at the same time. then the question comes when no any mortal thing lasts forever for everyone, then which is the thing we need to attain, then i found this should be an immortal thing. and then i found in geeta in which shri krishna himself said his original swaroop is immortal.
one day i named my god as 'ANANT'. AND when i want to show gratitute towards the god, i always say 'hey ANANT' only.. hey anant
We are also praying to the unborn, ajanma and indestructible, avinashi.
Have you read Srila Prabhupada's Bhagavad Gita As It Is? Please read that Gita, hear lectures. If possible, join a congregation in your vicinity, wherever you are. Visit your local ISKCON temple and ask what is the congregation preaching happening, see whether you can join.
What is the purpose of self realisation, if it doesnt lead to devotion? The purpose of life is to re establish our lost relationship with the lord, the ajanma, avinashi. He can be perceived as Brahman, Paramatma or Bahagavan. It is the same avinashi whose realisation is at different levels, depending on how intimate you want the relationship to be.
Jo mujhe bhajega woh sirf mujhe prapt hoga - one who prays to Me attains only Me - this means that such a person will relate to Krsna Himself - God in His original swaroop - yatharup.
Please ask more questions - I will answer. Your concepts need to be cleared about who is God and what is our relationship with God.
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"that We mort als need the Immortals. Or become* overly berdoned by our offenses.
The practices are key.
Thank you for your Share.
"The Smile, begins at the corners of the Eyes & progresses to the corners of the mouth, which gradually opens' asNot to alarmOthers" Om TaT SaT
Hare Krishna Shekhar Prabhu ji .
i am also from Mt. Abu , Rajasthan .
i would like to tell you that in this Kaliyuga , Bhakti Yoga is practically the only way for Self Realization and God Realization as well .
Please do not go on the path of Gyan Yoga ; because it will lead you ultimately to Param-Brahm Jyoti . And after frustration , the spirit souls have to come back to this Mortal World from that imperfect spiritual destination .
By practicing Bhakti Yoga sincerely, one can very quickly realize oneself as well as God or Krishna .
Beyond the temporary Mortal World of universes , there is a spiritual sky ; where there are infinite Spiritual Planets which are all permanent and full of knowledge and bliss . Try to attain that supreme destination .
For more information read www.prabhupadabooks.com and hear www.prabhupadavani.org
Hare KRsna Prabhuji,
PAMHO.
When I read your post, I feel you are just ready to embark on this journey. I have answers to everything you have mentioned.
THe question - WHo Am I? is the beginning of self realisation. When we realise that the purpose of life has to be more than merely eating, sleeping, mating and defending, that animals also do, then we start on the path, then we question, who am I? What am I doing here? What is the purpose of my life?
Creator is one prabhuji, He is saakar (with form) and niraakar (formless) at the same time. This is what I was explaining - Brahman realisation - when we feel God is a light, He is nirakaar, We are actually seeing the effulgence that comes from the lord, Brahmajyoti and think this is the Supreme. Actually, the supreme is a person behind that light. Its like seeing a view from an aircraft, then seeing from rooftop, but to meet the person, one has to enter the room and see face to face. THese are the 3 levels of realisation - brahman, paramatma and bhagavan. All are right. Thats why we gaudiya vaishnavas say God is nirakar as well as sakar at the same time. THis is the achintya bhedabhed philosophy propounded by Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu.
The thing to understand is that we are not this body, we are the soul that resides in the body. Each of us is immortal. The mortal world is temporary, the immortal is the soul and the supersoul.
God is anant - this is also mentioned as one of the characteristics of God in GIta - Ch 2.
Where are you located prabhuji? Maybe I can help you connect with some devotees there.
Haribol,
Your servant,
Radha Rasamayi DD
thank u for your kind assistance. i live in Pragati Nagar, Kotra, Ajmer, Rajasthan.
I would like to continue my conversation being curious, please assist.
i dont feel that anything light like entity is to authenticate the presence of god because the sun, the moon the stars and the million of galaxies are created by god.
the question is that what to realize? God or Self?
the god exists everybody knows it. no forms are required to see god like things.
i am seeking for the truth for many years. i tried and tried.
bas jaan ne me aa raha hai maan ne m nahi aa raha hai.
Hare Krsna prabhuji,
PAMHO.
I am also originally from Rajasthan, though we dont have family there anymore. I have visited Ajmer dargah, had mirchi pakodas there, visited the Brahma temple, stayed overnight.
I am also interested in continuing our conversation.
OK, if you think there is no "light" entity, but you think God is niraakar, formless.
Your question re whom to realise - God or self. Its like this - if you realise God, then there is no need to realise self, because we are part and parcel of God, a small subset of God. Hum unke ansh hain. If we realise self, then also we will understand that we are part and parcel of God, and we have a relationship with God, which we have forgotten and need to revive. Both will lead to the same result.
God exists and has a form, as per authorities. Anyways, at this stage, I dont want to get into form or formless. Let us first agree that God exists, then we will take it forward.
It is because you are seeking truth that you have come this far.
I can show you the path forward. It is upto you to walk on it or not.
PLease tell me more about yourself - whether you are a student, family man, what work you do.... etc so that I can give more personalised direction.
Re - bas jaan ne mein aa raha hai, maan ne mein nahi - yeh to apne pichle janmo ke anarth hain. Inko dur karna ke liye 2 cheeze karni hain - agar aap maane. To translate - you mentioned that you are getting knowledge, but not able to accept it. My reply is that this is because of past life anarthas. The way out is to do 2 things if you agree - 1) Chant Hare Krsna Mahamantra, min 4 rounds daily, for the next 6 months. This has to be chanted without fail, every single day for the next 6 months. 2) Read Bhagavad Gita As It Is in a language of your choice everyday.
Do this for 6 months and see the difference yourself. If you think you wasted your time, you can come and kill me, I will not object.
Please do write back. I will wait for your post.
Haribol,
Your servant,
Radha Rasamayi DD
THank you for sharing prabhuji.
Ppls do what I have suggested - chant mahamantra 4 rounds daily, it will take half an hour of your time, and read Gita everyday for 6 months. You will feel teh difference.
In that period, you can come to this forum and ask whatever questions come to you, or what you cant understand in Gita.
Haribol.
one day i named my god as 'ANANT'. AND when i want to show gratitute towards the god, i always say 'hey ANANT' only.. hey anant
We are also praying to the unborn, ajanma and indestructible, avinashi.
Have you read Srila Prabhupada's Bhagavad Gita As It Is? Please read that Gita, hear lectures. If possible, join a congregation in your vicinity, wherever you are. Visit your local ISKCON temple and ask what is the congregation preaching happening, see whether you can join.
What is the purpose of self realisation, if it doesnt lead to devotion? The purpose of life is to re establish our lost relationship with the lord, the ajanma, avinashi. He can be perceived as Brahman, Paramatma or Bahagavan. It is the same avinashi whose realisation is at different levels, depending on how intimate you want the relationship to be.
Jo mujhe bhajega woh sirf mujhe prapt hoga - one who prays to Me attains only Me - this means that such a person will relate to Krsna Himself - God in His original swaroop - yatharup.
Please ask more questions - I will answer. Your concepts need to be cleared about who is God and what is our relationship with God.
Haribol,
Your servant,
Radha Rasamayi DD
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