Please explain what Lord Chaitanya explained about the secret sex life of Krishna
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But in spiritual bodies, all genital organs are also of spiritual nature. So, sex by union of spiritual genital organs is transcendental to sex by union of material bodies with material genital organs. So, there is no problem if there is pure spiritual sex in spiritual world.
Hare Krishna All,
Pamho,
AgtSP!
Sorry, but all the answers are confusing. On one hand you say there is sex life and on the other hand you say nobody enjoy sex even after having beautiful women around. How Spiritual sex is different from material sex. If there is no pleasure and no children in spiritual sex and more over if they don't enjoy it, why there would be two genders? What is Raas leela? what exactly Krishna doing in there? Why does he need sex when he is self satisfied.
If he does raas leela just to please gopis who are pure devotees, why do gopis have Sexual desires who are pure devotees. If Sex is not important and if not meant for pleasure then why Raas leela is highest among all leelas?
First of all we should know what is the difference between gross sex and spiritual sex ?
Hare Krishna
Well said, during raas leela, all the gopis developed lusty desires to enjoy Krishna. Krishna is atmarama, or always self satisfied and does not need spiritual women to enjoy, but the gopis want to enjoy Krishna. To please them, Krishna does raas leela, and also to fulfill their spiritual lust, Krishna also can have spiritual sex with them, what is the problem? So, spiritual sex is not sinful unlike the material sex. Even in the material world, sex within marriage, to beget good children is not sinful. So, sex, itself when utilised properly is not sinful. So, we can understand that sex life in spiritual world is pure and transcendental to sex life in material world. Gopis can never fulfill their lusty desires, if Krishna does not enjoy sex with them. Such is their spiritual intense attachment with Krishna.
Hare Krishna,
Pls find your questions below, answered line by line.
>>On one hand you say there is sex life and on the other hand you say nobody enjoy sex even after having beautiful women around.
Ans: Yes there is sex life..it exists but needn't be enjoyed or liked. Same as there are many sweet preparations in the sweet shop but you may not like it and have craving for something which gives higher taste.
>>How Spiritual sex is different from material sex.
Ans: The culmination of material sex life needs 2 bodies to come together but spiritual world this is considered to be lowest form. So no one likes it. To understand better you can think of something in which you are least interested. It exists but you are not interested.
>>If there is no pleasure and no children in spiritual sex and more over if they don't enjoy it, why there would be two genders?
You have to rise above the level of thinking gross sex life for pleasure. Due to material influence it has been etched in our minds that enjoying sex life means male & female mating. In spiritual world even if they are able to get a glance or smile of Krishna that pleasure is millions of time more than the pleasure of having gross sex here.
>>What is Raas leela? what exactly Krishna doing in there? Why does he need sex when he is self satisfied.
My humble request to you is to pls move step by step. If you jump then you will always be confused. It's more or less like a nursery student trying to make out how Mathematics (algebra) also has ABCD.
Prabhu, you are on a stage where you are not able to assimilate the grossness of material life and you want to dive in the esoteric pastimes of Raas-leela. You are ought to get confused. I request you to please first read who am I? & then Who Krishna is? When you know that in full there will not be much to know?
All your doubts are genuine but you have to learn step by step with a humble heart to know more. Krishna also reveals the innermost secrets from within. You just need to call out sincerely by chanting His names:
Hare Krishna Hare Krishna
Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
Hare Ram Hare Ram
Ram Ram Hare Hare
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Its ok, but union of two spiritual bodies of opposite genders is different from union of two material bodies in material world. So, what is the problem, if there is sex life of pure form between two spiritual persons of opposite genders. It must be there, thats why, it is also there in material world. We should understand that sex among spiritual persons is pure and transcendental to sex among material persons.
Sex life in the material world is "perverted reflection" of the real pleasures obtained in the Spiritual world.
In this material world sex is considered to give the highest pleasure & depends mostly on gross bodily pleasures. Sex life exists in the spiritual world too but it doesn't depend on bodily pleasures & not same like here and also this pleasure is considered to be lowest there in the Spritual world.
Here is an excerpt from a letter by Srila Prabhupada which explains this point:
Letter to Janardana -- Los Angeles 21 January, 1968: ".......For example: sex life, the most prominent feature of this material world. This sex life is explained in Srimad-Bhagavatam, 3rd Canto, in the explanation of Vaikuntha world, when it is said that in the Vaikuntha planets, the women or the fair sex is many many more times beautiful, well-constructed, their face and smiling more attractive, their breasts and hips are very high, and they clearly and freely mix with male devotees,, But their strong sense of devotion towards the Lord and being absorbed in Krishna Consciousness, all the features of womanly beauty cannot stimulate their sex passion. In the material world the same reflection of beauty and bodily features at once stimulate sex passion. Therefore, the enjoyment of opposite sex in the Vaikuntha world has no action of sex life whereas in the material world the perverted reflection of beauty has resultant action of sex life which is the cause of dragging material existence...."
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But, still spiritual sex life must be there sometimes among the spiritual inhabitants, otherwise, why there are both males and females in spiritual world? If there is no need of spiritual sex life, only one gender is enough in the spiritual world.
Hare Krsna,
My obeisances to all devotees, guru and gauranga.
A reverse question to you prabhu, why do you think Krsna should have a sex life? The purpose of sex is two things: one is for sense gratification and the other is to beget a child (a krsna conscious child for a devotee). Now going by the two, you can answer yourself does krsna needs to have sex for sense gratification? No. Does he need to have sex to beget a krsna conscious child? No.
So what is the need for sex life for krsna? When you answer this a "no", your other question is automatically answered. There is no need to compare krsna's activities which are transcendental (as Jenny Gage has answered) to the activities performed on the material plane. Krsna is beyond activities on the material plane. People often mistake rasa lila to be krsna enjoyed the gopies for bodily needs. No, kissing and embracing between krsna and the gopis is not the same as a boy and girl doing the same thing in the material world.
Sorry if this offends or hurts anyone but this is my understanding.
Srila prabhupada ki jai..
Hare krsna
According to our scriptures and explanations by iskcon acharyas, there is a difference between pure spiritual sex and perverted material conception of sex life. The origin of sex life is Krishna Himself, who is Adi rasa, but material sex life is a perverted reflection of pure sex life in spiritual world. This shows that sex life must be existing in spiritual world, which must be very pure and having a greater purpose, unlike the material sex life which is only to gratify the material senses. But persons with spiritual bodies in spiritual worlds, must be definitely devoid of the material lust. Krishna's begetting so many children from 16108 wives, is definitely a form of spiritual sex. Without this spiritual sex, how could Krishna beget so many children?
Hare Krishna Prabhuji,
Hope this verse answers your question,
SB 3.15.20
vaidūrya-mārakata-hema-mayair vimānaiḥ
yeṣāṁ bṛhat-kaṭi-taṭāḥ smita-śobhi-mukhyaḥ
kṛṣṇātmanāṁ na raja ādadhur utsmayādyaiḥ
In the material world, opulences are achieved by materialistic persons by dint of their labor. One cannot enjoy material prosperity unless he works very hard to achieve it. But the devotees of the Lord who are residents of Vaikuṇṭha have the opportunity to enjoy a transcendental situation of jewels and emeralds. Ornaments made of gold bedecked with jewels are achieved not by working hard but by the benediction of the Lord. In other words, devotees in the Vaikuṇṭha world, or even in this material world, cannot be poverty-stricken, as is sometimes supposed. They have ample opulences for enjoyment, but they need not labor to achieve them. It is also stated that in the Vaikuṇṭha world the consorts of the residents are many, many times more beautiful than we can find in this material world, even in the higher planets. It is specifically mentioned here that a woman’s large hips are very attractive and they stimulate man’s passion, but the wonderful feature of Vaikuṇṭha is that although the women have large hips and beautiful faces and are decorated with ornaments of emeralds and jewels, the men are so absorbed in Kṛṣṇa consciousness that the beautiful bodies of the women cannot attract them. In other words, there is enjoyment of the association of the opposite sex, but there is no sexual relationship. The residents of Vaikuṇṭha have a better standard of pleasure, so there is no need of sex pleasure.
So,in vaikuntha even devotees not interested.So,what to speak of the lord.If you have still doubts better you ask some devotees personally.
Jaya srila prabhupada.
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