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Discussing The Glorious Pasttimes Of The Avatars Of Lord Krishna.

Posted by Derek Ward on March 29, 2016 at 7:10am in Bhakti

Discussing the pasttimes of the Lord with devotees is reccomended in the Vedic scriptures as one of the most effective ways to attain love of Godhead. Therefore for the benefit of the all devotees and non devotees, I have started this discussion so together we may study and discuss the pasttimes of Lord Krishna and his incarnations, like Lord Caitanya. If you have any stories you would like to tell us please do so! Such stories may elevate one to developing love of Godhead, and can destroy all miseries of the material world. These stories when discussed by devotees are pleasing for the mind and heart to hear, and establishes friendship with the devotees.

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  • Krsnaraja Melvin March 30, 2016 at 6:18pm
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    Shaktyavesa Avataras
    Sesa Naga, Lord Brahma, Narada, Christ, Bhaktisiddhanta, Srila Prabhupada, 
    Bhaktivinoda, Mohammed, Kumaras (clockwise), Buddha (center)

    The saktyavesa-avataras are of two types: forms of divine absorption (bhagavad-avesa), and divinely empowered forms (saktyavesa). All saktyavesa-avataras are jiva-tattvas, including those who are considered to be incarnations. When a jiva-tattva becomes specifically empowered by the Lord, he is called saktyavesa avatara. Dhanvantari, for example, who was the inaugurator of medical science, was a jiva-tattva saktyavesa incarnation of the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

    The primary saktyavesa-avataras are directly empowered by the Supreme Personality of Godhead and are called an incarnation. Lord Brahma and Lord Siva are considered to be such saktyavesa's, as are Lord Buddha, Kapiladev, Rsabhadev and Nara-Narayana. The secondary saktyavesa-avataras are indirectly empowered by the Supreme Personality of Godhead and are called vibhuti. Jesus Christ and Hazrat Mohammed are included in this group, as are the great Vaisnava Acaryas like Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur, and A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada.

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    "Generally the eternal associates of the Lord in the spiritual sky do not come to the material world. Sometimes they come, however, by the order of the Lord--not to hold any administrative post, but to associate with the Lord in person or to propagate the message of God in human society. Such empowered representatives are called saktyavesa-avataras, or incarnations invested with transcendental power of attorney."

    Srimad-Bhagavatam 3:5:21 Purport

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    "The Lord then pointed out that there is no limit to the saktyavesa-avataras and that they cannot be counted. However, some can be mentioned as examples. The saktyavesa incarnations are of two kinds--direct and indirect. When the Lord Himself comes, He is called saksat, or a direct saktyavesa-avatara, and when He empowers some living entity to represent Him that living entity is called an indirect or avesa incarnation. Examples of indirect avataras are the four Kumaras, Narada, Prthu and Parasurama. These are actually living entities, but there is specific power given to them by the Supreme Personality of Godhead. When a specific opulence of the Supreme Lord is invested in specific entities, they are called avesa-avataras. The four Kumaras specifically represent the Supreme Lord's opulence of knowledge. Narada represents the devotional service of the Supreme Lord. Devotional service is also represented by Lord Caitanya, who is considered to be the full representation of devotional service. In Brahma the opulence of creative power is invested, and in King Prthu the power for maintaining the living entities is invested. Similarly, in Parasurama the power for killing evil elements is invested. As far as vibhati, or the special favor of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, is concerned, it is described in the Tenth Chapter of Bhagavad-gita that a living entity who appears to be especially powerful or beautiful should be known to be especially favored by the Supreme Lord. Examples of direct or saksad-avataras are the Sesa incarnation and the Ananta incarnation. In Ananta the power for sustaining all planets is invested, and in the Sesa incarnation the power for serving the Supreme Lord is invested."

    Teachings of Lord Caitanya, Chapter 8

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    "There are unlimited saktyavesa-avataras of Lord Krsna. Let Me describe the chief among them. Empowered incarnations are of two types--primary and secondary. The primary one is directly empowered by the Supreme Personality of Godhead and is called an incarnation. The secondary one is indirectly empowered by the Supreme Personality of Godhead and is called vibhuti. Some saktyavesa-avataras are the four Kumaras, Narada, Maharaja Prthu and Parasurama. When a living being is empowered to act as Lord Brahma, he is also considered a saktyavesa-avatara. Lord Sesa in the spiritual world of Vaikuntha and, in the material world, Lord Ananta, who carries innumerable planets on His hood, are two primary empowered incarnations. There is no need to count the others, for they are unlimited. The power of knowledge was invested in the four Kumaras, and the power of devotional service was invested in Narada. The power of creation was invested in Lord Brahma, and the power to carry innumerable planets was invested in Lord Ananta. The Supreme Personality of Godhead invested the power of personal service to Lord Sesa, and He invested the power to rule the earth in King Prthu. Lord Parasurama received the power to kill rogues and miscreants. Whenever the Lord is present in someone by portions of His various potencies, the living entity representing the Lord is called saktyavesa-avatara--that is, an incarnation invested with special power."

    Caitanya-caritamrta, Madyam lila 20:367-373

    c.gifBhaktivedanta Book Trust. HDG A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada.

    http://www.harekrsna.com/philosophy/incarnations/saktyavesa.htm

    The Hare Krsnas - Incarnations of the Lord - Shaktyavesa-avataras
  • Krsnaraja Melvin March 30, 2016 at 5:06am

    Secret I Always Wanted To Tell You

    By Krsnaraja Melvin

    Let's start with relationships between nations say, USA and India. The former is Christian, the latter Hindu. USA trusts God in Christ while India trusts God in Krishna. You know why Srila Prabhupad did not choose a successor to lead ISKCON? Because His Divine Grace could not find a pure devotee of Krishna among his followers. Huh? The reason is simple. If I want to go to India and I am a Christian, the only way for me to convert a Hindu to Christianity is that I should first become a pure devotee of Krishna. If I go to the USA and I am Hindu, the only way for me to convert a Christian in America to Hindu is I have to become first a pure devotee of Christ. One can not be a pure devotee of Krishna if he is not a pure devotee of Christ. While one can not be a pure devotee of Christ if he is not a pure devotee of Krishna. Otherwise, USA and India goes to war. Funny, isn't it?

    The proof of the pudding is in the eating

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    Krishna and Jesus Christ

    Many people often wonder what is the view of Lord Jesus Christ in the Krishna consciousness movement.

    Srila Prabhupada, the foremost exponent of the Krishna
    consciousness movement explains that Jesus is Krishna's representative, son of God, and spiritual master.

    Below are excerpts from Srila Prabhupada's books, lectures, and conversations about Jesus Christ and his
    relationship with Krsna.

    "If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too" 
    (Srila Prabhupada - Room conversation with Allen Ginsberg, May 12, 1969 / Columbus - Ohio)

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    http://www.harekrishnatemple.com/chapter27.html

     

    Krishna and Jesus Christ
    Learn about the relationship between the teachings of Jesus and Krishna
  • Walter Cloud ShaktimanahDasa March 30, 2016 at 12:37am
    Lord Chatonya's pastimes are the bear's because they are the (most merciful and simplest to persorm of all the paths of 're awakening tofu now-dormant Love of God. Utalizing the intimate persuasions of Rodahroni's service approach towards approaching Krishna He Benedict's everyone of all races and classes, genders or karmic status, to directly service The Most High of the God's Krishna. As Probupoda gee-said " One simply needs to understand that Krishna is the Supreme Personalaty & your scholarly endeavors are finished over-that is all we need to know"
    Simple and complete Chant The Holy Names after the Head God's, take Passadum, sing & dance in statically.What couldn't be nicer? Sheri Chatonya's All inclusive mood & His simplistic approach to accomplishing the reconciliation of our sleeping relationship with the Head God is by far & away the for most of the Mamatchless Gifts brought to Us all Viea HDG)Srila Prahbupada. Simplistic Unconditionaly loving and externally applicable!Ji HareBola!
    Simply adopt/join Sri Chatonya's Sankiertona movement & automatically you life will become successful. As there is no greater philanthropic activity nor will anything please Krishna as much!
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