Dangers Of Guru Groupism

by H.H. Bhakti Vikasa Swami

(Featured in Congregational Development Journal, published by ISKCON Congregational Development Ministry, Jan–Mar 04)

By the mercy of Srila Prabhupada, more and more people worldwide are coming to Krishna consciousness. Congregations especially are increasing. Along with this naturally come challenges, but better to face the challenges that arise from preaching than to have no preaching.

A unique feature and strength of ISKCON is having many devotees awarding initiation. But this can also engender problems. One problem that negatively affects the development of preaching is that of “guru groupism.” In some places there is no such competition, either due to enlightened leadership or more commonly because something resembling the old zonal acarya
system is still prevalent, with new devotees having little choice in who they should take initiation from.

Although devotees have been aware of guru groupism, some have come to accept it as part of life, and to openly discuss it has seemingly been taboo. However, I submitted this topic for open discussion among ISKCON leaders. I suggested that in our movement some disciples tend to form groups centered around their gurus. Thus, rather than functioning as a united organization centered on serving the mission of Srila Prabhupada, we tend to form smaller sub-groups within the institution, each with the petty agenda of increasing its numbers, and-in competition with other such groups-to canvass new devotees and to promote their guru as best. Guru groupies become preoccupied with competing for new recruits rather than educating devotees on the principles and practices of spiritual life as taught by Srila Prabhupad. Significantly, no one denied that such problem existed and discussion ensued as to the effects of this syndrome. His Holiness Lokanatha Maharaja commented that guru groupism is one of the greatest dangers facing our movement: if left unchecked it could lead to a complete splintering into various factions. It should be checked now, before it’s too late.

Guru groupism tends to promote a neophyte, fanatical, divisive, and separatist mentality that cannot be healthy, neither for the individuals who subscribe to it, nor for our movement as a whole. Certainly there can be no real cooperation and unity if this syndrome persists.

Despite the above, my observation is that in many areas of the world devotees initiated by various ISKCON gurus tend to serve Srila Prabhupada’s mission in a spirit of cooperation. Although each devotee has a personal relationship with the guru, it is a private matter that creates no separatism in the interactions with disciples of other gurus. These devotees tend to better respect all gurus and senior devotees and to identify themselves as members of ISKCON and followers of Srila Prabhupada, rather than as members of a guru-based subgroup.

So how do we tackle this problem. GBC has already made few recommendations like

1) Educating devotees on importance of keeping Srila Prabhupada perspective of ISKCON in their congregation.
2) Preserving the mood and mission of the founder acarya as the mainstream ISKCON activity. And that Srila Prabhupada as the universal Siksha Guru for all ISKCON devotees.
3) All the guru based sub projects should be encouraged to be done as a secondary and private activity for disciples. And glorification of one's spiritual master be done openly only on specific days like Vyasa Puja etc. Otherwise it should be relegated to an internal affair.
4) The congregation leaders should give due emphasis on hearing from Srila Prabhupada as part of the Sadhana.
5) Create an open atmosphere for new devotees to choose their spiritual masters and remove undue influence or nepotism for choosing a specific guru.

Other points I raised:

(1) Many people come to Krishna consciousness because they want to get away from the superficiality of material life, in which everyone is competing with each other. When they read Srila Prabhupada’s books they become inspired by the high ideals His Divine Grace articulates. But when such newcomers become subjected to the manipulative tactics of guru groupism, they think that the temple environment is the same as the material environment from which they seek
relief. Upon encountering this neophyte competition, many intelligent people back off and leave Krishna consciousness altogether.

(2) On the positive side, it was noted that if disciples of different gurus could unite more, we could achieve wonderful results, considering the ripeness of many of the affected preaching fields.

(3) The stress should be on educating newcomers in what it means to be a disciple and what are the qualifications of a bona fide guru, thus enabling them to come to an intelligent decision based on genuine faith in guru. Without this, the number of disciples may increase, but the
quality of guru-disciple relationships might be shallow and based on hype rather than genuine spiritual exchange.

(4) Although every disciple has an individual relationship with the guru, our preaching should be as members of Srila Prabhupada’s mission; we must understand that ISKCON’s initiating gurus have no other mission than that established by Srila Prabhupada. Our preaching efforts should be on behalf of Srila Prabhupada for ISKCON, and we should feel happy if a new devotee feels attracted to any bona fide guru within ISKCON.

(5) Some devotees believe that canvassing for new initiates is a service to their guru. But it is actually a disservice to the guru to bring him people insufficiently educated in what it means to be a disciple. Later, such recruits’ dubious activities would give the guru a bad reputation and
extra karma. Another result of such aggressive canvassing is that later some devotees lament that they were unduly influenced or practically forced to take initiation without being given the chance to thoroughly examine the guru and make a thoughtful choice.

(6) Local leaders in areas where gurus spend little time become de facto gurus if all devotees under them are their junior Godsiblings. Although this may appear to be a smart managerial ploy, it rarely helps—either the de facto gurus or those under them—to mature in Krishna consciousness.

(7) Temple leaders should invite initiating gurus other than their own to visit their preaching area and let all devotees benefit from a multiplicity of association.

(8) The sustained input of gurus is required to rectify matters. Gurus should make clear to their disciples their duty to educate newcomers about the process of initiation, which includes making a personal decision based on knowledge and without undue pressure from others.

Guru, Vaishnava Dasa
Bhakti Vikasa Swami

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  • Volunteer

    Below is a quote that seems relevant to me in connection with the wonderful points made by H. H. Bhakti Vikasa Maharaja in his article.


    From the Question and Answer session after a seminar given by H. H. Bhakti Vidyapurna Maharaja "How to See Krishna Everywhere" in Baltics Summer festival, Lithuania, 28 July 2011.


    (Seminar video available here:


    http://www.iskcondesiretree.net/video/seminar-on-how-to-see-krishna...


    Transcription done by me, sorry for any discrepancies.)

    Question: There is a conflict in my mind because you said we should see Krishna in everything, but in the beginning of my Krishna consciousness I got the instruction that I should see all my possessions, everything, as the property of Guru. Actually, I should give everything to Guru. So I have a conflict with these two instructions, these two points of knowledge.

    Maharaja: Saksad dharitvena samasta shastrair. So there is no difference, if it is given to Guru or given to Krishna, it is the same thing. Without Guru, you can't see Krishna, does that make sense? So there is no difference. It means, you see it in relation to Krishna. So you don't see the Guru in relation to Krishna? So this is the important element. See, the neophyte has a tendency to see... Means, seeing Krishna, that's fine, but then seeing that Guru is... Unfortunately the Guru is THE only way. So, yes, for you, but for another person next to you the principle of Guru may manifest to them through someone else.


    So Krishna is one person. And Krishna is The Guru. But He manifests as Guru in different ways to different persons. So like in our society - there is like a hundred Gurus. So each one of them is giving the instructions of Srila Prabhupada, how you can go back to Godhead. Why we choose one Guru or another, is that the instructions of one Guru we can relate to in our life. Right? So the Guru, the person is special whether anybody appreciates or not. But for us, we are able to see Krishna through this person. So the natural position is - Krishna is special, the Guru is special because he represents Krishna, and therefore I as the servant of the spiritual master assist in serving Krishna. Right?


    Krishna Bhajanamrta points out that sometimes a flaw comes up in the neophyte's mentality. The neophyte thinks self-centered, because they feel themselves are important. Therefore the Guru's importance is there because the Guru is connected to me. Does that make sense? So therefore the neophytes tend to fight over the importance of who is serving their Guru. Because I am serving my Guru, the whole world stops and everybody should understand that. But it's not actually that the Guru is important, what they are trying to say is - I am important, because I am doing something for my Guru.


    But the actual standart is that working with the other Vaishnavas to serve your Guru is part of the field of activities. Right? In other words, if you can't cooperate with other devotees who are serving their Guru, everybody else's service has to stop because I am serving MY Guru, since all Gurus are serving Krishna, it's not actually serving Krishna that is important. Or serving Guru is important. The important element is that I have the excuse now to make myself important because I am saying I'm doing this for my Guru. Does that make sense? Because if you asked your Guru: "Guru Maharaja, you know, today we did such a nice service for you, we upset everybody else in the yatra, because, you know, they didn't understand how important was my service to you today." Right? So we have to be very careful.


    So the spiritual master represents Krishna. Because Krishna's principle is this: direct service to Him is not that valuable. Right? Let's say you are born into a family. Ok. So the father is there, then there is the son. So the son is important. But now after some time the son has a son. So what is the relationship between the son's son with his father's father? What's the relationship?


    Reply: Uncle


    Maharaja: Uncle? Hmm... I won't get into your private family arrangements here, but... (everyone laughing) Like that... I mean, in our family they tend to call them grandfathers... (everyone laughing) Uncles are your father's brothers. But I don't know how it works around here...


    So, the point is is now, the granfather and the grandchild, is there something unique in it, something special? Right? Granparents can sit all day there and just relax and be really comfortable with their grandchildren, but with their own children - not, not at all. So there is an intimacy that's there. But what happens if then that grandchild has a son? A great-grandson? Right? Does that make sense? So it gets more and more intimate.


    So now, the grandson can directly interact with the grandfather. But his relationship with the grandfather is not direct. His relationship is as the son of the son. So we worry about this direct interaction. But we make the mistake here: direct interaction and direct relationship are two different things. Does that make sense? So that's why the position of dasanudasanudas: it gets sweeter the farther away it gets. Because Krishna already has those who are intimate with Him and those relationships are perfect. So there is no desire or need to have them replaced. But you can add to that. Do you understand? Means when the grandson is there, the relationship between the father and the son doesn't change. What you are doing is adding to the relationship with the son, now you are adding unto that the grandson. It doesn't replace, they are two different tastes. Does that make sense?


    So therefore then there is the principle that we can add something to the already existing relationships. Right? So wherever you are in the line, you are adding somethig to what's already there. Right? So therefore we are the servant of our spiritual master, someone else is a servant of their spiritual master, and all that is pleasing to Krishna. And because it's all important to Krishna, when we cooperate that's what is considered better. If we cannot cooperate, then that means we do not actually understand the position of Guru. Does that make sense?


    ===End of the Answer===

  • Hare Krishna

    I cannot lie.

    People do feel more connection to their Gurudev than to Srila Prabhupada even though Srila Prabhupada is the Siksa Guru of all.

     

    Personally I never met Srila Prabhupada, but I met my Spiritual Gurudeva. This makes me feel more connection, and I feel He is the greatest disciple of Sri Gauranga. But I can never forget Srila Prabhupada!

  • In response to the continued need to educate new devotees in ISKCON about the pre-eminent position of Srila Prabhupada as our Founder-Acarya and the primary siksa guru for all ISKCON members,

    It is resolved that: The Governing Body Commission recommends that all prospective disciples and aspiring initiates attend the ISKCON Disciple Course prior to their initiation, preferably before choosing an initiating spiritual master. Other members of ISKCON are also encouraged to take the course. Also, ISKCON leaders are requested to facilitate the course in their respective areas by encouraging senior devotees to become authorized to teach the course, and by sponsoring the course in their respective areas as it becomes available in the appropriate languages.

    http://gbc.iskcon.org/gbc-resolutions-2012/

    Lastly, in response to the fact that “official” and unofficial websites of ISKCON gurus currently do not, in large part, prominently feature the personality and teachings of His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada as the Founder-Acarya of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness.

    It is resolved that ISKCON gurus shall be responsible for ensuring that their own official web sites prominently feature a picture of Srila Prabhupada on the introductory page, credit Srila Prabhupada as the “Founder-Acarya of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness”, and contain a brief summary of Srila Prabhupada’s accomplishments and provide authorized website links to his teachings.

    Annual GBC Report 2012
    Annual GBC Report to Sri Radha-Madhava and Sri Pancha-tattva, Sridham Mayapur, February-March 2012 (Including 2012 resolutions) This year the GBC and…
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