Job plus Bhakti. How to be?

Bhuwan Dutt Bawari October 15, 2014 at 12:06pm

Hare Krishna Prabhuji! Dandvat!!!!!!! PAMHO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AGTSP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Radhey! Radhey! Prabhuji i can understand your problem, as you are stating that you have very tight schedule as you are handling five state altogether on during your job. See Prabhuji you doing your prescribe duty so there is nothing wrong but make sure you are not doing any illegal or unauthorized job which is our Krishna Consciousness does not allowed. You know prabhuji there is about 99% of global population which is born as a sudra (Lower Class) and living in society as a sudra only who involves in four major bad habits like eating non-veg, drinking or takes drugs etc, Gambling & Illicit Sex. If you strongly avoid these four major pillar of ir-religion and fix your mind in full Krishna Consiousness, Im sure you will be always happy. As you said the people surrounding you are against KC. That is true as i said earlier that about 99% population is like that and even in Sri Mad Bhagwad Gita Lord says to Arjuna out of thousands only one put his/her feet toward my Bhakti and out of those thousands of devotees only one become my pure devotee and attain my pure devotional ship. I tell you about me where iam working, there are all people against me because i am Lord Krishna's small devotee they always make fun of mine knowingly make stupid talks in front of mine but i always fix my mind in Lord Krishna's Lotus feet i know that i am not a very big devotee of Lord Krishna but the light of Krishna Bhakti is always there in my heart and which always give me power to follow four regulative princepal and always keep me happy. So just trust on Lord Krishna read Sri mad Bhagwad Gita at least two slokas daily, it will give you spritual energy and chant in your Hare Krishna Mahamantra while in the office our to keep yourself away from the wrong things.

Hare Krishna Prabhuji

Your Humble Servant

Bhuwan Dutt Bawari

Panchatathva dasa October 14, 2014 at 6:11pm

There can't be zero fear in this material world. bhayam dvitiyabhi nivesitasya . The fear is thing which is caused because we left Supreme personality of Godhead, Krishna. Till we catch hold of his lotus feet, it is always fearful.

Bhaktivedanta VedaBase: Srimad Bhagavatam 11.2.37

bhayam dvitiyabhinivesatah syad

isad apetasya viparyayo 'smritih

tan-mayayato budha abhajet tam

bhaktyaikayesam guru-devatatma

SYNONYMS

bhayam -- fear; dvitiya -- in something seeming to be other than the Lord; abhinivesatah -- because of absorption; syat -- it will arise; isat -- from the Supreme Lord; apetasya -- for one who has turned away; viparyayah -- misidentification; asmritih -- forgetfulness; tat -- of the Lord; mayaya -- by the illusory energy; atah -- therefore; budhah -- an intelligent person; abhajet -- should worship fully; tam -- Him; bhaktya -- with devotion; ekaya -- unalloyed; isam -- the Lord; guru-devata-atma -- one who sees his own spiritual master as his lord and very soul.

TRANSLATION

Fear arises when a living entity misidentifies himself as the material body because of absorption in the external, illusory energy of the Lord. When the living entity thus turns away from the Supreme Lord, he also forgets his own constitutional position as a servant of the Lord. This bewildering, fearful condition is effected by the potency for illusion, called maya. Therefore, an intelligent person should engage unflinchingly in the unalloyed devotional service of the Lord, under the guidance of a bona fide spiritual master, whom he should accept as his worshipable deity and as his very life and soul.

MANISH CHAUDHARY > Panchatathva dasa October 14, 2014 at 10:25pm

Thanks ... Panchatathva ji .... I will keep searching ways to come out from Maya.
- Panchatathva dasa > MANISH CHAUDHARY October 15, 2014 at 10:01am
  
  you can't come out of maya until Krishna favours you. He favours you only if you surrender to him and catch hold of his lotus feet tightly.
  
  daivi hy esa guna-mayi
  mama maya duratyaya
  mam eva ye prapadyante
  mayam etam taranti te
  
  SYNONYMS
  
  daivi--transcendental; hi--certainly; esa--this; guna-mayi--consisting of the three modes of material nature; mama--My; maya--energy; duratyaya--very difficult to overcome; mam--unto Me; eva--certainly; ye--those; prapadyante--surrender; mayam etam--this illusory energy; taranti--overcome; te--they.
  
  TRANSLATION
  
  This divine energy of Mine, consisting of the three modes of material nature, is difficult to overcome. But those who have surrendered unto Me can easily cross beyond it.
  
  PURPORT
  
  The Supreme Personality of Godhead has innumerable energies, and all these energies are divine. Although the living entities are part of His energies and are therefore divine, due to contact with material energy, their original superior power is covered. Being thus covered by material energy, one cannot possibly overcome its influence. As previously stated, both the material and spiritual natures, being emanations from the Supreme Personality of Godhead, are eternal. The living entities belong to the eternal superior nature of the Lord, but due to contamination by the inferior nature, matter, their illusion is also eternal. The conditioned soul is therefore called nitya-baddha, or eternally conditioned. No one can trace out the history of his becoming conditioned at a certain date in material history. Consequently, his release from the clutches of material nature is very difficult, even though that material nature is an inferior energy, because material energy is ultimately conducted by the supreme will, which the living entity cannot overcome. Inferior material nature is defined herein as divine nature due to its divine connection and movement by the divine will. Being conducted by divine will, material nature, although inferior, acts so wonderfully in the construction and destruction of the cosmic manifestation. The Vedas confirm this as follows: mayam tu prakrtim vidyan mayinam tu mahesvaram. "Although maya [illusion] is false or temporary, the background of maya is the supreme magician, the Personality of Godhead, who is Mahesvara, the supreme controller."
  Another meaning of guna is rope; it is to be understood that the conditioned soul is tightly tied by the ropes of illusion. A man bound by the hands and feet cannot free himself--he must be helped by a person who is unbound. Because the bound cannot help the bound, the rescuer must be liberated. Therefore, only Lord Krsna, or His bona fide representative the spiritual master, can release the conditioned soul. Without such superior help, one cannot be freed from the bondage of material nature. Devotional service, or Krsna consciousness, can help one gain such release. Krsna, being the Lord of illusory energy, can order this insurmountable energy to release the conditioned soul. He orders this release out of His causeless mercy on the surrendered soul and out of His paternal affection for the living entity who is originally a beloved son of the Lord. Therefore surrender unto the lotus feet of the Lord is the only means to get free from the clutches of the stringent material nature.
  The words mam eva are also significant. Mam means unto Krsna (Visnu) only, and not Brahma or Siva. Although Brahma and Siva are greatly elevated and are almost on the level of Visnu, it is not possible for such incarnations of rajo-guna (passion) and tamo-guna (ignorance) to release the conditioned soul from the clutches of maya. In other words, both Brahma and Siva are also under the influence of maya. Only Visnu is the master of maya; therefore He can alone give release to the conditioned soul. The Vedas confirm this in the phrase tam eva viditva or "Freedom is possible only by understanding Krsna." Even Lord Siva affirms that liberation can be achieved only by the mercy of Visnu. Lord Siva says:
  
  mukti-pradata sarvesam visnur eva na samsayah.
  
  "There is no doubt that Visnu is the deliverer of liberation for everyone."

Amal October 14, 2014 at 3:37am

Hare Krishna Manish Prabhu!

I would like to thank you for your honest statement and seeking help from devotees. How wonderful your heart is! I feel that you are already in the spiritual path and Krishna is guiding you towards the right path. Please uphold your believe in Krishna like a thunder bolt because the path of this material life is always slippery.

In Bhagavad Gita Lord Krishna clearly stated that He would help you to reach Him. Please read the following verses carefully to find your answer:

man-mana bhava mad-bhakto mad-yaji mam namaskuru

mam evaishyasi satyam te pratijane priyo 'si me (B.G. 18.65)

Always think of Me, become My devotee, worship Me and offer your homage unto Me. Thus you will come to Me without fail. I promise you this because you are My very dear friend.

sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja

aham tvam sarva-papebhyo mokshayishyami ma sucah (B.G. 18.66)

Abandon all varieties of religion and just surrender unto Me. I shall deliver you from all sinful reactions. Do not fear.

Hare Krishna!

Amal

MANISH CHAUDHARY > Amal October 14, 2014 at 10:23pm

Hari Bol

Thank you Amal Ji.... My all regards to your words ..... I will continue my believe in Lord Krishna always.

umang October 13, 2014 at 10:24pm

HARE Krishna!

Just keep on trying for god.....practise in yr daily life inspite of all odds and buisiness........if u r serious in yr quest u will succeed for sure;krishna sees the efforts and even one who doesn't reach the ultimate goal in his present life he is bound to follow that in next lives due to his past efforts of embracing the path of krishna.

E-Counselor

Radha Rasamayi DD October 13, 2014 at 9:57am

Hare Krsna Prabhuji,

PAMHO.

What social responsibility are you talking about - the one towards family, to be the provider of your family, to blend in with friends and neighbours, to excel in the workplace and still be the most popular person?

If it is the first one - towards family, then you have to fulfill your responsibility. Spirituality is not an excuse to do away with responsibilities and think of oneself as renounced when actually one is not. Your responsibility towards being the provider for your family is and will always remain your priority. Towards friends and neighbours also - one can fulfill one's responsibilty with a certain level of detachment.

Why is there fear in fulfilling social responsibility? Fear is due to attachment. The more we are attached to name, fame, success and money, the more fearful life we will lead. YOu need to practise detachment. The way to do that is to attach yourself to Krsna and dovetail all your activities towards service of KRsna.

Why day to day activites are stopping you from going close to God? Are we not doing job, managing house, doing sadhana all at the same time? That is the entire trick of spirituality prabhu, one has to be in one's current situation and change only the consciousness, not the situation. The change has to be internal prabhu, not external.

Why are you using spirituality to achieve a zero fear life? We use spirituality to connect with God, to know and love God, to render devotional service to God. Your purpose is no fear, not full love and service. I dont know much about your sadhana level, so cannot comment. Be very clear about your goal prabhu.

I dont think I have been able to explain anything to you at all.

Take care,

If you are more specific with your query, you will get a more specific answer.

Haribol,

Your servant,

Rashmi

MANISH CHAUDHARY > Radha Rasamayi DD October 14, 2014 at 1:27am

Hare Krishna

My all regards & thank you Rashmi Ji to guide me.

Actually the atmosphere around me is not support me for spirituality. I am handing 5 states for my company & most of the time I travel. I realized that people around me don't believe in spiritual life or they don't want to understand the spirituality so i don't share my feelings with them.

I don't get any motivation for sadhana. I live in a totally professional world and not able to develop consciousness of Lord krishna.

People invite me for smoke,drink,fun,parties but I am totally fed up by all these and I have try to leave these habits and successfully since last 7-8 month i am not even touch.

Overall i love spiritual life style .... I try to render devotional service to god which gives me relaxations.

So many times i realized that bhagwan ko samrpit peoples are living real meaningful life. But my sadhana is not in continuations some times its very low & some of the times its dominate me.

I have try to tell you about my confusions / dilemma.

I will keep try to find the way to connect with God.

Haribol.
- E-Counselor
  
  Radha Rasamayi DD > MANISH CHAUDHARY October 14, 2014 at 10:04am
  
  Hare Krsna Prabhuji,
  
  PAMHO.
  
  I completely understand and my sympathies with you. Being a woman, I was told that if I want to grow up the corporate ladder, I need to drink, smoke and eat non-veg, then what to speak of you, being a man and that too in marketing. I can understand the pressure and kudos to you for having successfully left all this for 7-8 months.
  
  Now the next step is to consolidate. Whereever you go, try to find ISKCON temples of taht place, visit them, if possible stay there in their guest house and attend the morning program of that temple. Try to eat prasadam in those temples as your meals. This way, you can use your work of travelling to good use of seeing all the temples, which Srila Prabhupada would call embassies of spiritual world. Do google of the place you are visiting, or alternatively visit www.iskconcentres.com. By doing this, you will actively seek the association of devotees and that will help in your sadhana.
  
  I dont know how many rounds you are doing - jump to 16 rounds of mahamantra everyday. Whether the concentration is there or not, whether the desire is there or not, whether the time or circumstances are favourable or not - you have to have to have to chant and complete your committed rounds. If you cannot chant on beads, chant on counter, on fingers, on excel, recently I heard of a phone app that helps you count when you chant. Any which way, you have to chant.
  
  Prabhu, my experience is that when we face hurdles, we start thinking why we are facing hurdles, esp if the hurdles are on the path of spirituality. We think that because we are trying to do something related to God, we should immediately get His mercy and not only that hurdle related to spirituality, even all other hurdles in our life should simply disappear overnight. It doesnt happen taht way. On the contrary, people are known to face a lot more hurdles sometimes when they come to this path.
  
  Consider this to be maya devi's filtering process. She is entrusted to keep us in the material world - jail. So she will not let anyone get out until that person qualifies - this is her way. If we are perseverant, and tolerant, we will pass this test.
  
  Another realisation in relation to hurdles is that hurdles come on our path to test our resolve and increase our determination. When we become resolute to serve the lord, that hurdle goes away. Therefore, it would be a good idea to try to simplify your lifestyle to the extent possible. For work, if you have to travel, so be it. Do waht I have mentioned above. One can pray anywhere prabhu, it neednt be at home only.
  
  Try to read more and seek the association of devotees more. That way you will get the drive to do your sadhana. Dont worry prabhu, whatever you do, however little, do with sincerity and continue to strive to do sadhana. You will surely succeed in pleasing the lord and get continued devotional service as a reward.
  
  For the record, not smoking, drinking or eating non-veg meant that I am out of the corporate rat race, but today I am a General Manager of a reputed company. So no loss materially also. Pls dont think I am bragging. The purpose of telling you is that do not fear losing out materially simply because you are trying to pursue spirituality. Krsna is very merciful, He never keeps anything wanting for His devotee.
  
  If still there is some confusion, please write back.
  
  Keep on associating, even through this forum. That will help you focus.
  
  Haribol,
  
  Your servant,
  
  Rashmi

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