Challenged about vegetarianism.

Hare Krishna

Someone challenged me about vegetarianism. If animals have souls and consciousness, why did God give them to other animals as food? For example, the rabbit to the wolf. If it is wrong for us to eat animals because they are conscious living entities, why is it OK for the wolf? 

Thank you. 

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  • The Fact is I have about 10 min to make my response.

    Fact #2 As I understand it from my studies at Iskcon, We are all *falling Souls* we all began divine origins yet over time for one reason or another we began behaving poorly thus Krishna began relegating out existence to lower and lower planets and associations.

    Also all souls have/suffer adverse karma by perpetrating violence and abuse of other souls.

    It simply is a fact that some souls are not yet ready to stop falling! and until they meet the match to their anger modesty will not be a part of their program of operation. but yes their sin is being reworded' in- Like & in-kind that is the law for all. *especially for the animals, actually one can say karma is the Law of the animals. (Nature) mya 

    The second point is, That only Humans Have the intellectual equipment to implement the art and science of devotional activatys  with any degree of effinshency or dedication  

    • So it's just the karma of the animals to kill and to be killed and eaten? That I can understand, I think. Someone challenged me about the idea that we shouldn't kill animals just to eat them, for why would God give some animals to others as food if it's not OK for *us* to kill animals for food. But if it is the karma of the lower animals, then that makes sense. I appreciate your thoughts. 

      Hare Krishna.

  • In this material universe there is the rule that one body is a food for another.  That rule exist from beginning of creation and will continue to exist till the end of this material world.

    There is food in ignorance, passion and modesty, therefore those humans who desire to progress to  higher level of consciousness need to use a food in a mood of modesty.

    • Thank you. Hare Krishna. 

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    Vegetarianism, here in discussion with respect to humans. Not other beings.

    Human birth is Karma yoni (perform action to reap other yonis, for enjoyment),

    All other births are Bhog yoni (in the mood of enjoyment)

    All other forms of birth do not incur sin for eating what ever they were meant to eat. Whether meat or veges.

    • Ah! That's, I think, the answer I was looking for. Those creatures who take on the bhog yoni are not able to freely choose what is right or wrong. It is an evil to be eaten alive by another creature (surely) but the wolf does not choose to do this to the rabbit. 

  • To clarify - 

    - Carnivores don't drink with their tongues. Due to the force required to bite their prey and incapacitate them, they possess a very large mouth cavity with very strong buccal muscles, and so it is quite inconvenient for them to drink water directly - the entire volume of water that would fill their oral cavity would be impossible to drink at a go. They use their tongues to create a bowl like structure and lap up water, which is more convenient.

    - Herbivores do have very long intestines. This is because they can digest cellulose, which is an indigestible component of food for any other animal, including humans. But to digest cellulose, it needs to be present in the gut for a pretty long time and then brought back into the mouth for a dose of salivary enzymes and swallowed again. This is why cows ruminate. To put it into perspective, cellulose is the component of plant tissue that goes into the making of paper pulp. Paper is mostly made of cellulose. Cows can digest paper and extract nutrients out of it. Humans and any other carnivore/omnivore are incapable of doing so.

  • I'm a vegetarian already, but I was wondering why Krishna would make animals food for other animals if eating animals is wrong for us. 

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