Can soul desire material world enjoyment instead of desiring association of Supreme Lord ?

Hare Krishna,

SB 4.29.6 — The five working senses and the five senses that acquire knowledge are all male friends of Purañjanī. The living entity is assisted by these senses in acquiring knowledge and engaging in activity. The engagements of the senses are known as girlfriends, and the serpent, which was described as having five heads, is the life air acting within the five circulatory processes.

First two lines from Purport: Because of his desire to enjoy the material world, the living entity is dressed with the material gross and subtle bodies. Thus he is given a chance to enjoy the senses.

My Question: Does this mean soul too can desire material world enjoyment instead of desiring association of Supreme Lord ?

I thought soul always points towards Lord ( it's nature) and mind looks at other direction of temporary happiness; and because of this process, the resultant is misdirection and we never become happy until we force mind to look in the same direction of the soul.

Please clarify.

Haribol !!

Hare Krsna Prabhuji,

PAMHO.

Soul has desired to enjoy away from the lord, thats why it has landed in the material world in the first place. THis material world is a jail, souls who desire to enjoy the world and be master of the world, like the lord. The lord is so merciful that He has provided so many facilities in the jail - flora, fauna, relationships.... to enable us to enjoy. But, we cannot be happy away from the lord, thats why we feel frustrated and empty from inside most of the times.

The gross body and the subtle body are but dress of the soul, which is provided as per desire. As you know, the mind is simply part of the subtle body. The mind is as per the consciousness and desire of the soul.

Haribol,

Your servant,

Radha Rasamayi DD

This material creation is the spirit soul’s dream. Actually all existence in the material world is a dream of Mahā-Viṣṇu, as the Brahma-saṁhitā descr…

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Walter Cloud ShaktimanahDasa October 9, 2017 at 6:33am

It is "generally understud that God/KRISHNA & Hi's energies are atomically Supercharged & therefore are "the apitomy of the Opposite of Mundane)?
Also (HDG) often said
"We are not free We are Servants of God or of Myia- again (eather or)?
Walter Cloud ShaktimanahDasa October 9, 2017 at 6:05am

Thanks "the mind is as the Soul desires" hince the practice(s) as the Soul enjoys the DIVINE.
The question is weather our options eather or (KC) or sinsuel employment? Is there a possibility for both.?
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Radha Rasamayi DD September 1, 2017 at 10:56am

Hare Krsna Prabhuji,

PAMHO.

Soul has desired to enjoy away from the lord, thats why it has landed in the material world in the first place. THis material world is a jail, souls who desire to enjoy the world and be master of the world, like the lord. The lord is so merciful that He has provided so many facilities in the jail - flora, fauna, relationships.... to enable us to enjoy. But, we cannot be happy away from the lord, thats why we feel frustrated and empty from inside most of the times.

The gross body and the subtle body are but dress of the soul, which is provided as per desire. As you know, the mind is simply part of the subtle body. The mind is as per the consciousness and desire of the soul.

Haribol,

Your servant,

Radha Rasamayi DD
- Prakash > Radha Rasamayi DD September 1, 2017 at 5:24pm
  
  Thanks a lot mata ji.
  
  I got the point I was looking for : The mind is as per the consciousness and desire of the soul.
  
  Now I have one more doubt:
  
  Then why it is said that soul is now sleeping [jiv jago, jiv jago, gauracanda bole; kota nidra jao maya-pisacira kole + SB 4.29.83 Purport : This material world is created by the dreaming of Mahā-Viṣṇu. The real, factual platform is the spiritual world, but when the spirit soul wants to imitate the Supreme Personality of Godhead, he is put into this dreamland of material creation. After being in contact with the material modes of nature, the living entity develops the subtle and gross bodies.] ?
  
  Are not we feeling it's desires through the tool called mind. Or Is the soul actually sleeping now ? If soul is not sleeping then why soul is not directing mind now ?
  
  SB 4.29.83
  
  This material creation is the spirit soul’s dream. Actually all existence in the material world is a dream of Mahā-Viṣṇu, as the Brahma-saṁhitā descr…
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    Radha Rasamayi DD > Prakash September 4, 2017 at 3:18pm
    
    Hare Krsna Prabhuji,
    
    PAMHO.
    
    Jiv jaago - means the awakening of the consciousness, not the physical sleep. It is because the consciousness is not awakened, thats why the jiva is in the cycle of birth and death, without any attempts to get out.
    
    Soul is not directing mind because mind is not in control. It is out of control.
    
    Haribol,
    
    YOur servant,
    
    Radha Rasamayi DD
    - Prakash > Radha Rasamayi DD September 4, 2017 at 4:50pm
      
      oh Okkk!! We should be aware all the time that Krishna is beside us, within us and try to serve Him. I got the point of Jiv jaago now !! It is not the physical sleep, it is about awakening of the consciousness.
      
      Thanks a lot mataji for clarifying this doubt of mine.

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