Hare Krishna and dandavat pranam to all prabhujees and matajis!!! Yesterday, I saw some Rajasthani licentious paintings depicting Radha Krishna in many erotic postures. Does any such mundane process exist in the spiritual world or is this just a material conception of some mundane artist?
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thanks 4 removing that photo
Hare Krishna, Sudipta prabhu!!! Thnkx for such a beautiful explanation and clearing my doubt. Your answers are always sooo perfect. Thnkx again!!
Hare Krishna, Ashwani prabhu!!! Soorry for the offense. And thnkx to everybody for your replies. Today, after surfing net and perusing various blogs on Srila Prabhupada, I have got these vital pieces of information.
Indeed Srila Prabhupada has specifically mentioned in Krishna book Chapter 48--'There is a warning in the Srimad-Bhagavatam that Krsna is not very easily worshiped because He is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the chief among the Visnu-tattvas. To worship Krsna or have association with Him is not a very easy job. Specifically, there is a warning for devotees who are attracted to Krsna through conjugal love; it is not good for them to desire to have sense gratification by direct association with Krsna. Actually, the activities of sense gratification are material. In the spiritual world there are symptoms like kissing and embracing, but there is no sense-gratificatory process as it exists in the material world. This warning is specifically for those known as sahajiya, who take it for granted that Krsna is an ordinary human being. They desire to enjoy sex life with Him in a perverted way. In a spiritual relationship, sense gratification is most insignificant. Anyone who desires a relationship of perverted sense gratification with Krsna must be considered to be less intelligent. His mentality requires to be reformed.'
Also in Nectar of Devotion Chapter 15, Srila Prabhupada warns his devotees against such paintings--'Great devotees up to the standard of Uddhava are very dear friends of the Lord, and they desire to follow in the footsteps of the gopīs. So the gopīs' love for Kṛṣṇa is certainly not material lusty desire. Otherwise, how could Uddhava aspire to follow in their footsteps? Another instance is Lord Caitanya Himself. After accepting the sannyāsa order of life, He was very, very strict about avoiding association with women, but still He taught that there is no better method of worshiping Kṛṣṇa than that conceived by the gopīs. Thus the gopīs' method of worshiping the Lord as if impelled by lusty desire was praised very highly even by Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu. This very fact means that although the attraction of the gopīs for Kṛṣṇa appears to be lusty, it is not in the least bit material. Unless one is fully situated in the transcendental position, the relationship of the gopīs with Kṛṣṇais very difficult to understand. But because it appears to be just like ordinary dealings of young boys and girls, it is sometimes misinterpreted to be like the ordinary sex of this material world. Unfortunately, persons who cannot understand the transcendental nature of the love affairs of the gopīs and Kṛṣṇa take it for granted that Kṛṣṇa's love affairs with the gopīs are mundane transactions, and therefore they sometimes indulge in painting licentious pictures in some modernistic style.'
Also in Srimad Bhagavatam in Vastraharan leela , Krishna says-'The desire of those who fix their minds on Me does not lead to material desire for sense gratification, just as barleycorns burned by the sun and then cooked can no longer grow into new sprouts.'-Sb 10.22.26.
Do u know how old Radha and Krsna were when the lord left for Mathura and never came back to Vrindavan?13 or somethg at most.Can u follow my ans?
Hare Krishna Randhir Prabhuji. Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada
Relating Human conception of age to them is irrelevant. Please hear Prabhupada's lecture. when Krishna appeared His delaing was in transendental plane and Radharani is not an ordinary jiva , she is Krishna's pleasure potency and transendental. If some one relate them with their mundane man and woman conception, spirituality will become an utopian thing for him.
"KRISHNA'S LIFE WAS A TRANSENDENTAL HISTORY AND NOT MUNDANE/MATERIAL"
Your aspiring servant
Hari Bol
Hare Krishna Prabhuji. Dhandavat pranam. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada
Suppose a night club on new year eve has arranged a party and they have advertised few details what the party is all about and what will be the criteria to enter that night club. They have mentioned in their advertisement few things
1.about their dress code , only wearing that type of dress we can be allowed.
2.They also told only Drunken should be given pass
3. Also who only likes hard metal they are allowed
4. only couples are allowed
5. who have no shame they are only allowed
If some person meet the above criteria they are only eligible to enter the night club.
Now from the above scenario we can get some idea that what would be going to happen in that night club, and what the night club is all about and what kind of person would prefer to go there.
In the same manner while practising santana dharma/Krishna consciousness ,only by the rules/regulative principles set by the authorities we can easily assume upto some extent what is the spiritual world is all about. Even what is the nature of Krishna.
Just try to understand here we are practising to even remove the thought of sex from our mind, how can it be ever possible that sex life like ours (in material world) exists in spiritual world.
"THE PATH OF SPIRITUAL LIFE IS NON DIFFERENT FROM SPIRITUAL LIFE AND SPIRITUAL WORLD"
Relation between Atma and Paramatma and their dealings of rasa is completly on transendental plane , there is not even a slight tinch of mundane materialism. Here sex means dealings of two gross body. Now in spiritual world where there is no gross body let alone sex. Just try to understand Krishna is parabrahman why would he going to take pleasure in this decaying material body which is bunch of bone and flesh.
"WHEN SELFLESS LOVE REFLECTS IN GROSS PLATFROM IT BECOMES SELFISH SEX"
Our problem is with our mundane consciousness we try to relate the spiritual consciousness and that is why uneducated in proper spiritual knowledge people deride the relation of Radha Krishna and gopis as an ordinary sex relation between man and woman. These is going on in India.
That is why we need a bonafide spiritual master to know what is what else our spiritual life will be doomed.
Your aspiring servant
Hari bol