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How To Get Back My Wife?

Consider me as your brother before reading this. Mataji coming to the matter, I am married to a devotee girl for 5 years and have one child with her. From the day of my marriage I started changing my self for good. I stopped eating onion, garlic,meat and everything that is not acceptable in KC. I argued with everone, my parents and relatives on selected way of life style. I started chanting 16 rounds. But my problem is I cant remember things and dont find interest in reading books, because of this I dont have much knowledge of bhagwadam, BG etc. Now the problem is from day 1 of our marriage my wife looks down upon me considering me the neophyte for the lifetime as she compares me with her family members who are initiated. She takes all the decisions of our personal life based on the suggestions of her family members and I dont mind as I consider them to be knowledgeable. She dont care for my parents and even she didnt spend atleast one week in our house in all these years, whenever she comes to India she stays with her parents and consider my family has neophytes. Till today my parents havent said single word against her as they fear of her rich family. Financially my family is poor compared to her family. She and her parents think that they have shown mercy by accepting me as their son-in-law as they are rich and we poor. Coming to my background ,I did my post graduation and had many other offers for marriage and I took the first offer considering her to be devotee. Now the problem has become serious when she didn't even attend the funeral of my father and now she took one month leave and going to vrindavan with her parents and sister. I strongly told her to come for the first year ceremony of my father but she neglected my words and went with her sister and brother-in-law to vrindavan both of whom are initiated devotees. She always compares me with her brother-in-law who is earning good and initiated more over she is attracted to him and always glorify him to hurt me. She is always in angry mood with me and when I tell her to keep safe distance from men she gets agitated. She told me on my face that she is earning more and because of her I am settled in foreign country and she is independent. I am very depressed as I couldnt help my parents and with wife who doesnt even care me. I feel lonely and feel that I may go mad in near future with frequent insults and neglegence from my wife.I feel like commiting suicide but at the same time have no guts to do it, Iam stuck between life and death. I dont want to live with her and at the same time have fear accruing bad name for leave her. What about my kid what will he think about me, I want to be a good father and I love him so much. As a woman kindly give me a suggestion mataji, I am completely heart broken with this women and thinking of divorcing her. Eagerly waiting for your reply.

I read Your message yesterday but since i considered myself not qualified to answer for it or guide You - senior gentle man, thought to write to a very senior Devotee lecturer from Russia. Who trains people in family life, relationships according to Vedic culture.

And for my surprise such busy Devotee replied to my mail. 

And also Your case was so serious, still it is.

So that senior Devotee HG Ruslan Narusheivich told that situation is difficult, might be wife likes some other man. But it is not a fact. Please, be patient...

Even if she does so, it is not the end of life. Might be she is more interested in spirituality that she does not have desire to perform the role of a wife...

We do not know what is the truth. But we know Your feeling as Your wrote about them.

So again telling I am not one who can give advices. But still as my Brother let me try my best.

For some days i also felt some of my friends being dis respectful with me. I used to speak to her something when so many people are around she used to act as if she does not hear me. Or speak in Hindi about me to others and laugh on some of my actions. 

And even with her actions tell me that i am an out caste but she is pure - born in India...

So i felt so so so much pain in my heart. And thought "how by doing such like things one can live life? If one is brining pain to others how much pain he will bring to Krishna within the heart of that person????" 

I felt so much pain. 

Visited some other friends. And felt they also be non friendly and consider me as an outsider. ...

so could not understand what was going on these days?

Why it is so?

How can i please all and everyone at a time?

In which way i behave so that everyone at a time give respect to me???

So those pains helped me today in Mangala Arati at Radha Gopinath Temple to take shelter of Gopinath. While sining Mangala Arati i prayed to Lord, that i do not have anyone in this world other than You my Lord!

No matter how one behaves with others still one cannot please all. Because people are selfish. But only selfless and true Friend is You! Please at least You do not neglect me-Your servant!

NONE in this world can become my true friend. NONE. 

So it is very important we do not depend on love of ordinary people, be them Devotees in the form of our wife, children, friends...because they also are conditioned souls. They also have faults. They are also struggling to become pure but still with so many defects in heart.

And the source of our unhappiness is that we wait for something from others.

We need respect, honor from others.

And Lord Chaitanya says that this mood of waiting for something in return is the source of suffering.

So we know trinad api sunichena taror iva sahishnuna...

So i understood that people disrespect me because i did so in one of my previous lives. 

So now washing my karma. 

So i prayed Lord to help those people who dislike me and make them happy.

And trying not to depend on others as a source of love-Krishna is the Only Person whom i can trust my heart fully.

And IF Krishna is pleased everyone, EVERYONE, EVERYONE will be pleased and nice with us.

As we know from Mahabharata. 

So please go to a senior Devotee and open Your heart to him.

And take Krishna's Holy Names very seriously Prabhu. Also forgive Your wife for her disrespectful actions and pray for her. 

Also another important thing is:

SIT WITH HER IN PROPER TIME AND EXPLAIN YOUR SITUATION. Explain that sometimes You feel disrespect from her side and that makes You angry. Explain that You like her to be patient with You in sadhana that very soon You will catch her up. 

Explain that if she behaves further like this You cannot stay with her. 

And start to instruct her. Woman love when one teaches them with nice words not with anger. 

Women love their teachers. So You start to instruct her and give advices. Maybe tell how to put furniture in the home in this way in that way. Small small instructions with love like "Dear, my beautiful one, the most beautiful one, do this and that"

Give flower to her. 

if You come late to Your home before You call her and tell that You are coming late today.

Tell how wonderfully she cooks.

Notice her new lipstick color, hairstyle.

And the main thing is talk to her and hear her. 

Women need emotional help from husband. 

But PLEASE DO NOT SHOW YOUR INSECURITY TO HER. Let she feel herself very secure in Your hand. Every evening embrace her, glorify her qualities.

You have to become a protector for her. 

In Vaishnava etiquette usually junior person opens his heart and weaknesses to a senior one. But not senior one to a junior one. 

If senior one shows his weakness to a junior one, the last feels very insecure. The last was taking shelter of the senior but now know weaknesses of that senior and feels fear.

So try to hear her, ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT HER. 

Usually man gets his karma washed with external things like hard job, traveling...but woman gets her karma in mind. Many times women suffer in mind. Every second they might have different mood.

So husband should understand that and never scold her for being not in mood. He should understand that for this time she is having her bad periods in her karma and try to help her by hearing her talks. She will tell how she is scared of so many things, she will tell about her angers to others, so many problems in home...

so husband's duty is to listen to her and tell ok let's do this and that and give suggestions taking senior position. 

Seeing woman as a child.

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She is going to Vrindavan then make sure that she is safe.

Call her when she is in the train and ask if she feels secure. Ask her cousin brother or whoever is going with her to take nice care of her so that no one bring pain to her. 

And another thing is for a husband it is very important the next thing:

He should take care of the next people in the next priority:

1. wife - she should be taken care first.

2. wife's family - when You married to her it means You married to all women - like mother in law, mother of mother in law ...so You have to be like a protector to them also. 

3. and in the third place Your own parents. In the reality when wife sees that You are taking so nice care of her and her parents than she will automatically take care of Your parents. 

So please keep this in mind!

And again women like when man protects them and leads in life BUT with love and care.

Please forgive me i spoke so much!

Your sister servant,

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  • Volunteer

    I don't want to complain about her but as a husband I feel insecure and feel that I may lose her.

    She completely trust men you looks like spiritually inclined and surrender to them very quickly.

    By nature she is good but as a man I have seen many men trapping women. I have cooperated to 

    her in all the possible ways to enhance her devotional service. I tried to tell her politely that to 

    be careful with men and don't associate with them in my absense. She answers me in rude way

    saying that she can take of herself and she knows who is good and who is bad. Finally she don't

    want to listen to anyone and not to the person like who has little spiritual knowledge. She is

    attracted to men who scholarly and has good command on spiritual matters and she openly 

    talk with them in my presence and don't even care me during this time. Neglecting ones own

    husband in presence of other man gives that man understanding of our relation and he takes

    over it. For example recently we celebrated our kids birthday and man who is known to us

    for just one week has come to the party with a very costly gift and he didn't bring his wife

    with him. I told my wife to be careful and she got agitated and again neglected me. I want her

    to go to all pilgrimages but I want myself to be with her ,where as she avoid me where she go

    and she feel that lack of my spiritual knowledge will bring her prestige down before other devotees.

    Now she is in vrindavan from last 3 days but never called and even not available when I called her.

    Mataji I dont have my father now and my mother is not all attached to me. The only family I have

    is my wife and kid. I respect her parents but her mother encourage her to rebel against me as I am

    poor compared to them. She listen to her mother completely. Sorry mataji I dont to disturb you

    any more, I try to concentrate on my sadhana and leave everything to krishna.As you said I may

    be suffering from my previous karma. Anyway thank you for taking so much time to read and reply to my message.

    To help You in any way i can is not a burden for me. Maybe in this way i will please Krishna because His dear Devotee - ... Prabhu is pleased.

    It looks like again You have to try Your best to get back Your wife. As like it happens in svayamvaras of Vedic times.

    And princes selects one who is brave and ready to give to her protection.

    Protection spiritual, material, emotional, physical.

    Spiritual means You have to become really stronger than her in spiritual life. There is no other way. If she chants 16 You have to chant 16 or more. if she wakes up at 4 You should wake up at 3...

    Material - You have to do Your job so that to maintain family and give some gifts to Your wife also invite friends to home Devotee friends and feed them with Prasadam. In this way she also will become greedy less.

    emotional - better way is just to sit and hear her speech. When she opens her heart.

    If she does not speak then to ask questions about her. How was her day...what she likes to eat, to wear, what she likes or wants to do....

    physical - embrace, notice changes she does in her external appearance....speak always that she looks so cute, she cooks so nice, she is the best, ....

    You might consider these things simple and material but it works.

    She goes to other man because they can pay attention to her and listen her. 

    This emotional side. 

    For women emotions are very important.

    While she is in Vrindavan, please use Your free time for Your spiritual progress especially in this month, Prabhu.

    And You are right let's depend on Krishna in results. But we have to do those things which are in our own hands, don't we?!

    Thank You and happy to assist You!

    Your servant,

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    • E-Counselor

      Hare Krsna Prabhuji,

      PAMHO.

      I am sorry if I am poking my nose. Actually I read these posts and thought maybe some solution can be given apart from the expert advise you are getting from Bhaktin Maral mataji. Please forgive me if I have overstepped my limits.

      Prabhuji, since you mentioned that your wife is very attracted to devotees with knowledge and who are senior or more advanced, maybe you could go for devotee marraige counselling. That is, some senior person whom you trust and whom your wife will also trust. Ideally it should be a senior devotee couple. Maybe you could confide in such a couple your problem and if they think fit, take your wife and meet them as one couple meets another. Then discuss with them your problem, maybe you could start with small titbits like she didnt call you when she was in Vrindavan or didnt attend your father's funeral (even if you have mentioned them already, in front of your wife, you pose as if you are saying it for the first time) and get them to react to her and maybe ask her explanations. Since she is attracted to knowledge and seniority, she will respond properly and then they can give her a class (personalised) on grihasta ashram with examples from their own lives. That way she will get first hand practical advise also and she will also know that if she does anything wrong, there are senior people in the temple who will come to know, that will not be good for her reputation.

      I dont know whether this will work, just making a suggestion. What I know is marraige is adjustment, where both have to adjust and both will not be fully satisfied at any given point in time.

      In fact, for my marraige, one senior devotee couple had attended. Within an hour after my marraige, they met us and told us - "whatever your expectations out of this marraige, be rest assured, they will not be met. Still you have to stay together and still you have to make it work. That is what is marraige."

      These words have stayed with me and I have tried. Just repeating to you what I have heard. Another thing they said after one year, "marraige is like beauty - its in the eyes of the beholder. If you want to see negatives, its endless and if you want to see positives, its also there. It is on you what you want to see and how you want to make it work. "

      I hope I haev not offended you or Bhaktin Maral mataji in any way by responding to this. I am sorry if I have. I only have your best intentions in my heart.

      Your humble servant.

    • Volunteer

      Thank You Mataji, indeed we pasted all these private questions and answers so that others also help with answers.

      Your servant, 

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