Venue Pune: S.B - 1.5.31
yenaivāhaḿ bhagavato
vāsudevasya vedhasaḥ
māyānubhāvam avidaḿ
yena gacchanti tat-padam
Translation: By that confidential knowledge, I could understand clearly the influence of the energy of Lord Sri Krishna, the creator, maintainer and annihilator of everything. By knowing that, one can return to Him and personally meet Him.
Purport: By devotional service or by the most confidential knowledge, one can understand very easily how the different energies of the Lord are working. One part of energy is manifesting in the material world; the other (superior) part of His energy is manifesting in the spiritual world. And via medium energy is manifesting the living entities who are serving either of the above-mentioned energies. The living entities serving material energy are struggling hard for existence and happiness, which is presented to them as illusion. But those in the spiritual energy are placed under the direct service of the Lord in eternal life, complete knowledge and perpetual bliss. The Lord desires, as He has directly said in the Bhagavad-gita, that all conditioned souls, rotting in the kingdom of material energy, come back to Him by giving up all engagements in the material world. This is the most confidential part of knowledge. But this can be understood only by the pure devotees, and only such devotees enter the kingdom of God to see Him personally and serve Him personally. The concrete example is Narada Himself, who attained this stage of eternal knowledge and eternal bliss. And the ways and means are open to all, provided one agrees to follow in the footsteps of Sri Narada Muni. According to sruti, the Supreme Lord has unlimited energies (without effort by Him), and these are described under three principal headings, as above mentioned.
yenaivāhaḿ bhagavato
vāsudevasya vedhasaḥ
māyānubhāvam avidaḿ
yena gacchanti tat-padam (Translation repeat)
Wonderful proposal is here so we could meet Him Good news we could meet Him Haribol…… Haribol…… if you are interested! “If there is will there is a way” no will no way, there no way you will meet Him “if there is no will there is no way” forget it but those who are interested meeting Him it’s impossible this was experience of those Bhaktivedantas you are here right! For some days they know what the story line is. You know who is speaking here? Narada muni is speaking and he is speaking unto Srila Vyasadev, conversation between Srila Narada Muni and Srila Vyasadev the two very great personalities infact they have been listed in the listed in the list of incarnations. Krishna the source of all incarnations, chapter you have just, these temple devotees have gone through chapter no. 3 and in there you find the name of Srila Vyasadev, you find name of Srila Narada Muni. So now these two great souls, these two incarnations of the Lord, empowered incarnations of the Lord. They are meeting in Badrikashram almost on the top of Himalayan Mountain. Badrikasram is on the top “Himalaya ki goda me” on the bank of Saraswati they are meeting, Alaknanda the sacred branch of Ganga is also not far from there. And one morning one beautiful morning like this one today is this beautiful? It’s ok good one but more beautiful up there where everything is so clear, no pollution, no car goes there (laughs) now the cars are also going but when they had this conversation everything was clear, not only the air was clear but the consciousness also was clear specially of Narada Muni, Srila Vyasadev was facing some difficulty his pollution was bit, consciousness was bit polluted and as a result he was despondent. As Narada Muni arrived from up above from his travelling preaching mission and as he comes, he is never quite, Narada Muni is never quite, he is always chanting “narada muni bajaye vina radhikaraman name” Others say he is always chanting “Narayana Narayana” but that’s not the case he chants Narayana Narayana but he also chants names of Radhikaraman he is very confidential devotee of the Lord, associate of the lord, he has place in Badrikasram he is worshipper of that Badrinaryan in this Bharatvarsa. There are so many varshas yes and one of them is Bharatvarsa and the deity is Narayana and worshipper is Narada Muni. So he chants the names, so while chanting the names of the Lord he was arriving descending, landing there and then he saw Srila Vyasadev and he did not seem very happy. Aaee….. what’s wrong with you? You are not a family man (devotes laughing) and this is early morning hours also, you should be jolly.
“brahma bhutah prasannatma na socati na kanksati” (18.54) for realized souls there is no lamentation, no hankering “prasannatma” he is always blissful” but look at your face. And then Srila Vayasdev “guhyam akhyati prcchati” (NOI: verse 4) He disclosed his mind in confidence. He was having hard time or in the terms which are used these days, he did not have a job satisfaction (devotee’s laughing). He had complied so many scriptures, Vedas, Purans, Upanisads and Vedantsutra, Mahabharat but still he was not happy with the job that he had done of the compilation of all theses text. So here Narada Muni is the Spiritual Master of Srila Vyasadev, so Srila Vyasadev said please I would like you to do the review of my books, book review. So Narada Muni under took the task and immediately came with the conclusion yes! Yes! Certainly I could now see why you are not very happy “vasudevasya mahima hy anuvarnitah” (S.B 1.5.9)
Where is Mahima of Vasudev? You have complied all the scriptures, well you have sprinkled few drops here and there of some mahima of Vasudev, but “hari sarvatra giyate” hari should have been everywhere on every page, in every line, in every word, in every single syllable. “Vasudev sarvamiti” Vasudev is all in all but you have kept Vasudev out of your all these books or just little touch that’s the reason, you are not happy. So as per observation and recommendations of Narada Muni who was spiritual master of Srila Vyasadev he under took compilation of yet another scripture and he complied the final and the best scripture in existence and that was and that still is? (Devotees-Srimad Bhagavatam) Srimad Bhagavatam ki jai……… Srimad Bhagvat So while they were talking, conversation continued after the book review statements of the “srnvanti gayanti grnanti sadhavah”(S.B 1.5.11) you should compile a scripture that’s very dear to the sadhu, the saintly persons, saintly devotees of the Lord, so that they could do “srnvanti gayanti grnanti sadhavah abhignasha” all the time also by reading that scripture they will be purified “te eva pasyanti achirena tavkam padam bhujam” and if they study such scripture, Bhagvatam, then as person hears and chants and recites and remembers the result “te eva pasyanti” they will be able to see “achrena” they will not take much time, what will they see? “padam bhujam” the lotus feet of the Lord and then beautiful form of the Lord, beautiful face of the Lord. So as they were still talking about the subject matter Srila Narada Muni is talking about this previous life. In his previous life he was son of a maid servant well how did he get there? How did he end up becoming son of a maid servant? Then we have to talk of his previous yet another life in his previous life he was a Gandharva he was very exalted person in a higher planetary system. And so many singers and reciters were invited and it was expected that they would chant the glories of Sri Krishna, “vasudevasya mahima” but there were also many young, beautiful girls in the assembly. So he lost the track he was distracted, he lost his focus forgot his mission and he ended up chanting the glories of demigods. He forgot the Supreme Personality of Godhead and he was chanting ‘jai durge, jai ambe’ (laughs). And as a result of that he was cursed to became son of a maid servant in the next life, so now ok not now so the 2nd life as he was the son of the maidservant that he what he is talking about in the present 3rd life that he has now achieved and talking to Srila Vyasadev about his 2nd life, middle life. So that time he was very lucky although son of a maid servant. It was month of caturmasya the four months starting “sravan, bhadrapad, ashwin and kartik” these 4 months are called as caturmasya. So some Bhaktivedantas had come some Parivrajakacharya the travelling monks had come, the exalted devotes of the Sri Krishna had come and they had camped up just outside his village and I wanted to make the long story short, so that we could reach the conclusion or come to where we are now, this verse we are way behind. So he had opportunity to associate with these saintly persons, his mother used to go so he also used to go behind the mother, he had no father, no brother he was the only child so he used to go with mother, mother busy in the kitchen washing pots, cleaning etc these were her services and the child used to be around the saintly. Aee ……..boy come here, come here bring some water, bring some tulsi, bring Ganga jala, bring this, take this and the child was running happily doing this and that for these saintly persons and he would also listen to the message and one important thing he did this is Narada Muni infact talking to Srila Vyasadev how he came to Krishna consciousness? How he became devotee of Krishna? Like in our back to godhead magazine we publish articles, how I came to Krishna consciousness? So that is the subject matter and Narada Muni is talking how he came to Krishna consciousness? He says I had association of devotees, I rendered some service to the devotees, I listen to some message but I also ate lots of prasadam with their permission I took lots of prasadam and while they were living you have heard, read that yesterday. As they were living those Bhaktivedantas who very very kind to poor hearted souls, “kripaya dina vatsalaha” they were very very kind “dinavatsalaha” the poor in consciousness.
You have no money you are empty handed then also you are poor but there is another kind of being poor, another way you could be poor, poor in consciousness, of the two it s better to have no money but you are rich in consciousness, you are rich in consciousness you have Krishna for you and infact that’s all that you need, that’s all that soul needs. So these Bhaktivedantas they were very you kind to me Narada Muni says “jnana guhya tama” they gave me most confidential knowledge one more time they may have summarized all the Bhagvatam or something in essence one more time, one more time most confidential. So Narada he was not Narada Muni that time he becomes Narada latter on. So one more time he heard and “yena” in this verse 1st word is what? What is the 1st word? “yena” by which , by which this refers to that confidential knowledge that he had Narada Muni had received. I could understand clearly the influence of the energy of Supreme Lord Sri Krishna, he could understand everything , he could understand the energies of the Lord, different energies of the Lord about which Prabhupad is talking in the purport and by knowing that one can return to him the personality and meet him personally. So Narada Muni had received this knowledge and he did met Lord personally he is talking about what he had heard but then soon after this Bhagvat recitation very unfortunate thing happened to Narada Muni he lost his mother. As she was going in the mid night to milk the cow and the snake bite, snake bit and she was dropped died there. OH! What to do? But he was prepared because he had all the knowledge not lost, he was equipped with the knowledge, he was not lost, he was not bewildered, he was not confused he exactly knew what to do under the circumstances. But certainly it was beyond him the death of the mother, no child, no, no what to speak of child wanting mother’s death no, he had never ever thought of such thing but he had no control over so he took that as Lords arrangement. So he did the final rights, he burned two things he burned the hut with that body of the mother also got burned and now he had no one in the world, no property, no relatives but he had that knowledge he had that confidential knowledge and what is the purpose of that knowledge
“vedais ca sarvair aham eva vedyo” (B.G 15.15) I am to be known the knowledge that one acquires (laughs) when have to understand which knowledge helps us to understand him the Supreme Lord “raja-vidya, raja- guhyam pavitram idam uttamam’ (B.G 9.2) the king of knowledge “adhyatmam-vidya, vidyanam” (B.G 10.32) “adhyatmam-vidya” knowledge about the self who am I? “athatobrhama jigaysa” Oh! Dear human being Oh! now finally fortunately you have became human being, become inquisitive, inquire find out who you are? And what is this world that is all around you? and when you are no more when you are died you would be wanting to turn left or right or go up and down you should have all the plan , you should know everything, you should know vidya , you should also know avidya this is advice of Isopanishad not only vidya, avidya also.
So Narad Muni had he was equipped with this knowledge so as he had no one around him so he starts travelling, walking and walking and doing padayatra going through towns and villages, industrial areas, the forest and the hills and he comes to a very thick forest, forest was dark even in the middle of the day, the snakes were crawling and owls they were making very scary sounds, fears animals were roaming freely of course this was their home and in the midst of all that there was little Narada he was young boy but he was not afraid of nothing he was only thinking, he was remembering all that he had heard and read in the Bhagvatam. He was thinking as the result of thinking of the Lord where is my Lord? Where is my Lord? He was looking for the Lord; he was very angry and thirsty. But all that he could see was a water body, so he quickly took bath and drank water that’s all no food only water. He felt some relief then he sat underneath the tree and he started meditating upon the Lord in the heart, looking, searching and searching and he was just fixed, he was fully focused only thing he was seeing and as per the description of the Lord and his beautiful form, he was fixing his mind on that Lord Shyamsundar, he was thinking of Shyamsundar form, lotus feet, the pinkish lotus feet and the Lords ankle bells, Lords thighs are short, lords thighs are short and waist is like a lady thin waist, Lord has big hips, Lord has a navel, broad chest, long arms reaching his knees, short neck, raised nose, reddish lips, lotus eyes blooming lotus eyes, broad forehead, beautiful curly hair and a peacock feather “pitam bara arvinda netra” he was wearing pitambar so like that his palms were also pinkish they were like a lotus, this part was like a lotus flower, that part was pinkish, his fingers were lotus petal and the hands were very fragrant also like a lotus not because some powder was applied there naturally the Lords hands were fragrant. So he had been hearing the description of the Lord, the talk of seeing the Lord in today’s verse, so now he was seeing the Lord in his heart. And this was result of hearing about that Lord he wanted to achieve that Lord, he wanted to see that Lord meet him personally and that is what was going on here he was meeting the Lord in his heart. He had interview with the Lord he was seeing the Lord face to face. That darshan that audience with the Lord did not last very long, Lord disappeared and then he heard a voice this is ahead of you, you will be reading this in the following verses and chapters.
When he heard the voice yes that is it boy next time I will give you darshan in next life. So as he was not able to see the Lord, he was not in front of him, within his heart anymore, so that disturbed his darshan and Samadhi. Then he had to wait till next birth and he became Brahma’s son, from the Lord, Brahma took birth and then Narada Muni appeared and he had lots of darshans of the Lord always taking darshan of the Lord, meeting with the Lord, dancing with the Lord and everything his life was just God centered, Krishna centered. So by that confidential knowledge I could understand clearly the influence of the energy of Lord Sri Krishna, the creator, maintainer and annihilator of everything by knowing that one can return to him and personally met him. And what about my life? I had to be engineer, I had to be a doctor, I am already somebody, I have a job at 9.30 -10 o’clock I have to catch a bus.
So this hearing about the Lord and making up mind of finding the Lord or realize the Lord and finally met the Lord is this only for selective few? Or everyone should be doing this? What do you think? Or well if you are a soul, if you are a soul then you should have a goal of meeting the Supreme Soul otherwise the whole thing is lost, are we soul? Is everybody a soul? Everybody has a soul, what do you think? Everyone has soul? No, some are thinking everybody has no soul! Some are convinced, this student is convinced everyone has a soul or at least human beings, Christians say animals have no soul, so let u eat them, they are meant for us to be exploited to be enjoyed. Let’s think that’s their ignorance and move on to the human race, all human beings there is a soul in their bodies. You can’t be living beings if there is no soul or life is because of, life comes from life not from the matter, life comes from life and the Supreme lively Personality of Godhead and He declares in Bhagavat Gita (15.7) “mamaivamso jiva-loke jiva – bhutah sanatanah, manha-sasthanindriyani prakrti-sthani karsati”
All living entities they are my parts and parcels, we are souls we are not these bodies, I am not this hand, it’s my hand, I am not master hand, I am not master head, this head belongs to me, I am the proprietor in other words I am the proprietor of hands, head, belly and legs this belongs to me right there with little logic Prabhupad use to use also this kind of logic. We could understand that there are two things there is a “me” and “mine” this has been described in Bhagvatam as “aham” and “mama”, “me” ani “maza” (maharaj says in maratahi)“mai” aur “mera” (Maharaj says is in hindi).
So this “mai”, this “aham”, this “me” that is soul and rest is the body and rest is other kinds of energies of the Lord, external energies of the Lord. So need of the soul is meeting with the Supreme soul, soul is looking forward to meet the Supreme Lord, everyone is looking for the Lord, even George Harrison said that you heard of George Harrison? He is no more but he was big, big singer, his name was Harrison, he was follower of Srila Prabhupad he used to chant “Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna Hare Hare, Hare Ram Hare Ram Ram Ram Hare Hare”.
And he did big service, great service to Srila Prabhupad’s mission in London by donating a big Manson which is known as Bhaktivedanta Manor and he paid for the entire cost of the printing of the Krishna book long time ago and in there, there is a picture of apple and the George Harrison statement and he has signed also. So everyone is looking for the Lord knowingly or unknowingly and he explains how, isn’t everyone looking for some rich person? He wants to associate with rich person, he is attracted to rich people or the riches , the wealth no one is expectation everyone is looking for wealth, riches, where is money? Where is money? “divacarthe hyaa rajan kutum bharne nava”
As soon as they get up Laxmi! Laxmi! Laxmi! They are chanting the mantra, so they are looking for the wealth, Krishna has that wealth, Krishna is always full of that wealth, He is Bhagvan, He is Dhanavan, He is Bhagvan meaning He is Dhanavan , so if you are looking for wealth that meant even according to George Harrison you are looking for wealthy most wealthy person, you find someone wealthy person you are Oh! He is not wealthy as that one and you find him, Oh! Here is another wealthy you go for him, like that……..
Why is everyone interested in going to heavenly planets because there are even more richer than Tatas and Birla’s, people you find Kuber and others demigods, very very rich. But when there is someone even richer than the Demigods and that is the Supreme Lord, so you will not be satisfied, you will not be satisfied, by meeting a person that has wealth, you will think oh! There is another, there is another more wealthy and the most wealthy person is? Sri Krishna, so you are looking for that ultimate person, most wealthy person. So this is just the wealth part, let’s go beauty and OH! This person is more beautiful than you met him, OH! That one is more beautiful and like that. This is how we are changing the bodies, because we are looking for a beautiful person, OH! He is more beautiful, more beautiful he is beautiful; he is more beautiful but the most beautiful is? Sri Krishna so that search we are searching for a beautiful person that search will end only when we met our Lord he is most beautiful and knowledgeable, we know so many knowledgeable people, you may thinking my professor is very knowledgeable, OH! But then I know someone else is a Noble Laureate, he is more knowledgeable but the most knowledgeable is again Sri Krishna.
What he spoke only for 45 minutes in the battle field of Kuruksetra 5000 yrs ago that still is the truth, holds as the truth other some knowledgeable persons and scholars are coming and going and what they have to say is studied even one becomes popular for 50 yrs, 100 yrs, few 100 yrs and then that is dumped until someone comes and proves that this is all wrong, it’s all bogus. But what Krishna spoke 5000 yrs ago, so many scholars are trying to understand even today and this Krishna is most knowledgeable and Krishna is more is most powerful, he showed that his power by lifting Govardhan hill that is nothing, his expansion Anantsesa is holding all the planets very very powerful, so he is most powerful. So these are different opulence’s of the Lord so our search for the beautiful person, wealthy person, what else? Knowledgeable person, renounced person, famous person, strong person - Bhagvan “isvaras, samagrasya, virasya, yashasa, shriya, jnana, vairagya, yashyeva” these opulence’s are Krishna’s, God’s opulence and the soul is looking for that person and going from one person to another person, from one body to another, one planet to another, one universe to another, this search will end only when we find the Lord of our heart when the soul meets the Supreme soul then we will be satisfied, fully satisfied and not otherwise. And one could think of searching the Lord only in the human form of life, not in other species of life. “jala-ja nava-laksani” (Padma Purana)
There are 9 lakh varities of species in the water, the Vedic texts are so precise “krmaya rudra-sankhyakah” the germs and worms are of 11 lakhs of varieties, “paksinam dasa-lakshani” one million (10 lakhs) varieties of birds and 20 lakhs (200 thousand) varieties of plants and 30 thousand varieties of animals, you have been adding this is 80 lakhs and “manushyanam catur lakshani” the human species are 4 hundred thousand varieties, 4 lakhs varieties they are not all on this planet or not necessarily in this universe but where ever. So this break down is there and all of these species the human species are most rare species because this offers us the most rare opportunity of coming to temple or coming to God or thinking of God hearing about God or this dharma business this religion business is only for human beings. I travelled long distance came from Pandarpur , not a cat has come not a dog has come, only human beings, only human being have come this is a proof, that Bhagvatam, this dharma, this Krishna this chanting of the holy name , OH! This is only for human being. Others just can’t even think it’s beyond them, only human beings could think so everyone Prabhupad had to say everyone is rotting in this material world, everyone is rotting, suffering.
I had to visit hospital in Nagpur few days ago, terrible experience as I had to visit that intensive care unit, where even I could see it was , I don’t want to even think and then you die , life is tough . I was in Nagpur few days ago but I was in New York few yrs ago on the wall someone wrote, some New Yorker, he had his realization, he wrote his realization on the wall. He said oh! Life is tough and then you die. And that was not all he had another short line at the bottom then you are born again for another tough life, tough life tough, then you die and then you are born again and again and again” no one wants this, no one wants to die any one here? I have travelled and enquired in south Africa I was there few months ago everywhere I have so I haven’t meet one person, I want to die, I want to die, I want to die no one wants to die but everyone must die, we don’t want to die, we don’t want to suffer, but suffering is there we were in Gaya just few weeks ago and this Rahul right? Siddartha, Siddartha Buddha was Siddartha before he wanted to see the world but his father would not let him go. He had to stay only within the palace compound, no going outside, but he was no, no! Father daddy no, I must no ………..….ok boy go. So he was given a chariot and chariot driver and then he was going around, doing Bharat dharshan and what he saw was? You know someone was terribly suffering lying on the foot path and the flies he was very sick and what not. OH! What is wrong with this person, he is sick, that’s why he is suffering, oh! He is suffering and this Siddartha says does everyone gets sick? Sure will I get sick also? Yes one day sure , no problem and then ok move on move on……and someone is struggling to cross the road, he was not only having to feet but another support , stick ahee…..please help me to cross the road , he had trembling body and he was falling down and getting up. Ahe what’s wrong with person chariot driver oh! He is old He is weak invalid now that’s why he is struggling. Does everyone get old? OH! For sure and what about me? You will also no problem; you will also get old and then ok carry on. Oh! What is this “ram nama satya hai, ram nama satya hai, ram nama satya hai, Hye! What is happening here? I see that one person is enjoying nice ride, while everyone is walking in hot sun. One person I just, people are throwing flowers on him, he must be very special person? And everyone is saying Ram Ram but he is just…. Ho! He is died person, what do you mean? All they will bring him to Ghat “nigamboda ghat” and burn his body. What does everyone die? Sure and what about me? Sure no problem (laughter) you will also die one day. So he just had this little darshan as he was going around, father did not wanted him to see his that’s way he is as keeping him within the palace. So Siddartha said ok chariot driver I have its enjoy, I have seen the world enough, no more I don’t want to see the world bring my chariot back to the palace, chariot back in the palace and that night that very night, he was a young man, young wife, young son also Rahul yes? That’s the name; he had a son called Rahul. So he took off in the middle of the night goes to Gaya he becomes enlightened. He wanted to find solution oh! I know the 4 problems I have made the list no 40, not 400 problems but my problems are 4 “janma- mrtyu- jara- vyadhi- dukha -dosanudarsanam” (B.G 13.9).
He had made e a list I have 4 problems that I will be facing and if I don’t solve them in this life , I have to come back again, and again those 4 problems and If I don’t tackle them in that life then another life and another…….., I want to put full stop to this suffering. So severe austerities and meditation and he becomes enlightened, he becomes Buddha and then he wanted to enlightened others. He was one incarnation he is one of the 10 incarnations of the Lord, Buddha dev don’t think he belongs to only dalit he is also are incarnation. So this Lord Buddha he made this lists 4 us these are 4 problems. Krishna also said this in Bhagvat Gita, Prabupad is talking here we are rotting in this material world, suffering. So is there any alternative to this suffering? Is there way out? Is this only we scare people? So they have hard time sleeping at night , are scriptures only talking of negative things and pointing out suffering of the world, humanity and individuals, no that’s not the case, there is way out and that way is realization.
I am soul, I am atma, I am atma I am sprit it soul, I am Krishna’s, I belong to God, I am his part and parcel, I must met him . So there so much knowledge about these matters the soul and Supreme soul and there is yet another kingdom of the Lord spiritual kingdom of the Lord, no one knows about it, Krishna knows and 100s and 1000s of pure devotees have confirmed this fact, pure devotees they have no tendency to cheat anybody. Narada Muni, Madhavacarya, Tukaram Maharaj just to name few there are 1000s of them100s and 1000s saying the same thing again and again and again they are confirming this fact which have been said by Krishna in Bhagvat Gita, described in Bhagvatam, scientist don’t know of course why should scientist know? Just because your scientist you should know everything at least there was one honest scientist. He was Newton or Einstein I don’t know he took one particle of sand on the beach, he was on the beach. He said “I know only just know only one particle I don’t know about all this particles all around me, that much knowledge there is so much more to know, I know only little bit just tiny bit I know. So tiny brains Prabhupad would say, we all have tiny brains, tiny brain, with the tiny brain, how much could you know? And all that, people are knowing is all about the matter, there is so much to know about the spirit soul and the spiritual world. Oh! If there is matter, the Russian scientist came to conclusion, oh! If there is matter there must be antimatter also, then its complete combination they came to this conclusion. If there is matter there is must be antimatter also. Well you may know something’s from this world in order to become javan or kisan or doctor or engineer or some kind of professional and we all do that, we know about this trade that line, computers, constructions or cloth making or building or whatever different things each one of us. But there is one thing that everyone must know about and that is the soul, about soul everyone should have knowledge. About this world and worldly things I may know something’s and he knows another thing, he is a science student, he is commerce, he is arts, he is biologist, he is physicist, he is zoology, he is botany, I am finish with the list (laughs) cosmology, astronomy ok like that there are so many departments of knowledge and he belongs to this department, that department but there is one department which is common for all the souls, that is one knowledge that everyone must study. Prabhupad was taken on a tour of Boston University and he visited all the departments 20-30 and at the end he said where is that department that talks about the soul, you don’t have such department this is incomplete, where is that branch of knowledge, where is that faculty that teaches about who am I? I am studying about everything else in the world, but I don’t know who am I? And this is a cause of suffering. There is some so called enjoyment is there on the surface level which doesn’t last very long “ahe samsparja bogah dukha yonaha evate” anyone who is enjoying he must suffer this is a law also of this world. Those would wish to enjoy no, no we don’t stop you, go ahead enjoy but be prepared to suffer, you may not want to suffer but you must suffer, you have to suffer these 2 things go together, this is part of the knowledge this Gita will teach, be prepared, be aware you want to enjoy ok but you will be suffering it is not possible to enjoy to enjoy only, it is not possible to suffer only, its complete package is 2 types of season sukha season and then dukha season ever body’s life has these 2 seasons but Krishna consciousness talks about going above, no sukha, no dukha only anand which has origin in the soul and Supreme soul and by nature we are blissful. We talk about God and soul and Bhagvat Gita, Bhagvatam OH! But is it accepted or proven by the scientist is it scientific,of course it is scientific, Krishna is Supreme scientist and more could be said. So why science has to put stamp of approval on what Krishna has to say, what God has to say, what Bhagvat Gita, Bhagavatam has to say why? Oh! It’s just scientific everyone wants to, is this scientific? Could you prove it scientifically, could be proven, it is a science, to begin with this is a science, original science the best science, science of the soul, science of God, sastra and “ya sastra vidhim utrajyavartate kamakarakaha, na sa siddhim avappnoti, na sukham, na paramgatim”
So study, continue your studies, study physics, study chemistry, study this study that, study germs, study worms (devotees laughing). So many persons they take one germ and the whole life they are focused on one tiny germ, the movements and then the lifespan and the tendencies, liking and disliking of that germ. Whether it’s a germ or something’s of that sort you are studying whole life. So study little bit of that but lot of time should be invested in studying who we are? Who is God? Where and how we exist and what is my relationship with him? And once we have him, we have everything. Srila Prabhupad used to say so one department, another knowledge, another property this, that, there are different zeros there is no one then all zeros put together one big zero. I will stop now, we are happy to see so many students from all over the planet, all over the country have assembled here, this is a rare opportunity for us, it’s beautiful to see such a scene. Young people of course why should we wait till our bodies are rotten and then make an offering of the rotten. The fresh flowers, the fresh fruits of this season and you’re the fresh fruit of this season, of this season and you are the fresh fruit of this season, of this world and all of you should be offered to the lotus feet of Sri Krishna. Tamal Krishna Maharaj used to talk like this, garland of jivas Prabhupad you have come to the west and here are 108 new Bhaktas as if they are like garlands’ and they are offered to Prabhupad , you please offer them to Sri Krishna, bring them to Sri Krishna offer the garlands of flowers or garland of Fruits. So here we see nice offering why you should be serving Maya? You should be serving Krishna, this is the proposal of Krishna, this is the proposal of all the great sages and saintly person, ancestors have talked like this, only when we start imitation of the west and as they made us the slaves for almost 1000 yrs the Muslim, the Dutch, the France, the Britishers then we lost the tract, we got distracted and even after independence, ok we will have independence so that we could have Ramraja we will established principles of Ram, Krishna.
This was the vision but again forgotten as soon as we had the 1st Prime Minister of India. OH! These dams, bridges and factories these are for temples these are places of worship for us. Although born in a Brahmin family as he was born in Brahmin family but he was brought up and his education in the West, he was very much influenced by the West. He used to get his clothes ironed in Paris and they used to bring his clothes to Delhi from Paris ironed clothes then he would put on his clothes. So he was influenced like that and he wanted his whole country like that. Again the modern science we are modern and scientific and industry and technologies the way to go. There were so many promises made up technologies and industrial civilization, have not been fulfilled and the ill effects of that modern technology and industrial life styles are about to are in front of us. 10% of all Indian are having kidney trouble well because I happen to read this 2 days ago, one out of every 10 every Indian are having kidney trouble and heart trouble and there are so many other kind of troubles. Someone has kidney trouble; someone has some other kind of trouble. Soon India will be on the top list of the HIV, the AIDS we are leading there we getting there, we will be number 1.
I was in Africa the life span of South Africa has been reduced to 33yrs. Because more than half of the population is suffering with the AIDS, shame! Matter of shame! The most sick country in the world is America and the terrorism and we can’t even have a sleep at night. You have nice bed, you could buy bed but not sleep, you could buy food but not hunger, there is no hunger, no sleep because of anxiety, there are so many things. This is the spirit of enjoyment this is the result of enjoyment, sufferings is here catching up with us. We should wake up so we can’t wake up everybody at least we could star waking up few people, nice I could see here good gathering here, woken up or waking up “tama soma jyotir gamaya” “get out of the darkness go to the light” light of what? Light of Supreme Personality of Godhead is light “Krishna surya sam maya hai andhakar” or light of Bhagvat light of Bhagvat Gita. Be knowledgeable know you,who you are? Then proceed, stop –think and proceed” so this is the proposal of International Society for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON). This was what Prabhupad all lifelong he was talking this language on behalf of Krishna and in only 40 yrs ago there was just him, by himself and you would be happy to know, I am sure you know already so many 100s and 1000s, millions of followers the Krishna consciousness has reached 160 countries in 40 yrs, it’s good news or no? Devotees- Haribol…………….this is just the begins that means people around the world. This is just the beginning that means people around the world Krishna consciousness is in big demand and this is the only alternative there is no other way , there is no other way , there is no other way, Krishna is only way, Krishna consciousness is the only way. The Holy name is the only way to get Krishna. So continue with your studies and whatever else you had been doing in your life but add Krishna know Krishna and spread this knowledge of Krishna around which is called Krishna consciousness this sill do good to you, to your family this is good for your family because your family is also souls family of souls this will do good to our country to the humanity and all the living entities will be benefited by this message of Bhagvatam. And then by knowing that, that refers to knowing Bhagvatam, knowing Bhagvat Gita, one can return to him, return to Krishna and personally meet him that’s why we said in the beginning nice proposal wonderful proposal of meeting with the Lord and Narada Muni is speaking from his personal 1st hand experience such meeting is possible and we have birth right, it’s are birth to met Krishna, janma siddha hakka hai, swatantraya maza janma siddha haka ahe ani to me midavnarach. Yesi sahar me, in this city Lokmanya Tilak was making this declaration during the war with Bristishers its are birth a right to live in a free country. And we will have it we will fight with all might so that one day we are free nation, this is our birth right. Just to make the country you could have such a determination, how much more determined you should be to make our soul free, we are shackled, we can’t even move, the goodness, passion, ignorance is not making us more , we can’t even move, we are bound. Prabhupad’s Spiritual Master said this political freedom is not that important more important is to make the soul free from the shakcle of these bonds of material existence.
That’s why 1922 Prabhupad was about to join Mahatma Gandhi’s freedom movement, he had already started wearing khadi clothes, attending meetings, also going to Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose, his underground meetings. But then as he met with Srila Bhakti Siddhanta Saraswati he said no, no more important is to take up the mission of Sri Krishna Caitanya Mahaprabhu seriously and make people free from illusion, free from ignorance, ignorance is cause of suffering make them knowledgeable and Prabhupad took that instruction very very seriously. Thank god! That instruction was given by Srila Bhakti Siddhanta Saraswati Thakur and Prabhupad took it seriously as a result what is happening? As a result we are sitting here today and some one is talking and others are hearing and others will also talk further about this. So this started in 1922 with Prabhupad taking this mission very very seriously, spreading the knowledge, making people knowledgeable.
So you would like not to forget Krishna, we can’t forget he is so wonderful, how could you forget him? Forget everything else, it’s all rubbish all temporary, cause of suffering also embrace Krishna, go for Krishna, met Krishna personally, met Krishna, start meting Radha Kunja Bihari, he is Krishna see him, see with the knowledge what you have heard and then stand before him and chant his glories, chant the holy name in front of Radha Kunja Bihari, take Krishna Prasad and every person that you care, I care for my parents, I care for my friends, I really want to look after , I want to do something useful, if your thinking like this please share this Krishna consciousness with them and then only you have done something tangible, substantial for them otherwise this “ahar nidra bhaya maithun” business goes on don’t think this eating ,sleeping ……roti, kapda, makan everyone is providing, the bird society, animal society, just because they don’t have university and they don’t have parliament and they don’t have super bazar or big bazaars like in Pune, we have big bazaar now. Is this big bazaar going to make Pune happier? Don’t be in illusion, we guaranty Pune will be more suffering in years to come. If Pune wants to show us hand and ask us please! Give us your predictions, so we would say you are enjoying? Yes yes you want to enjoy? Yes yes material way yes yes, you will suffer (devotees laughing). And we don’t have to curse anybody why should we curse anyone, but we could speak the truth, we guaranty suffering, I don’t have to do anything it’s all programmed, it’s all planned, so curb down this enjoying spirit , independent of Krishna. Of course there is so much enjoyment in relationship with Krishna, so much enjoyment so much to enjoy, We are not inviting you to come and suffer with us, Radheshyam is not inviting, he is going all over the country and brining young people or preaching to them, so that they would suffer, nicely suffer. He is envious don’t think he is suffering and he wants us also to suffer, infact he is enjoying and he wants to see that everyone else also would enjoy. Enjoyment all the way, only enjoyment “pratipadam purnamrita rasa svadanamsvadu svadu pade pade”. We guaranty that kind of happiness for everybody, whole country, whole humanity could be enjoying, by following this path shown by Krishna described in Bhagvat gita and Bhagvatam and could be realized by chanting “HARE KRISHNA HARE KRISHNA KRISHNA KRISHNA HARE HARE HARE RAM HARE RAM RAM RAM HARE HARE”.
Any questions (students asking questions to maharaj ji)
Question 1: So many times we hear about philosophy, we should love God, we should serve God, but at time of chanting we are not able to concentrate and we are not able to relish it is somewhat like burden for us there may be some falsie in hearing because Narada Muni heard form Bhaktivedantas he heard it very intensely but how could we improve our hearing to have substantial effect?
Answer: There is nothing wrong in the Holy name the same holy name that Narada Muni chanted has been handed down to us to this day. So it has same potency “Krishna caitnaya rasa vigraha nama cintamani rasa vigraha” it’s full of juice and it’s full of ananda, so how you apply is important and what is the other way? Ok you are in a boat the boat is in ocean and some difficulty with the boat, should you be jumping in the ocean again? Is that how you would be saving yourself? Fix the boat, repair the boat, something is wrong with the boat, just fix it then you will survive, you will cross over. Not that there is something wrong with the boat so I will just jump of the boat but then you will be in deep trouble of the deep ocean. So having faith in chanting holy name that is also required, so anyone who could give us, that faith association of those faithful devotees. Prabhupad gives example of jaundice, sugar candy is the way the person eats sugar candy but says OH! Because of the sickness of jaundice, sugar candy also tastes very bitter, says no get me another type of medicine, no there is no other type of medicine you want to be cured this is the only medicine, it’s the only medicine and if the person goes on eating that sugar candy then he will be cured and as he is cured he will experience the sweetness of the sugar candy and the time will come. Hye! Get me more, Get me more sugar candy it’s finished go and buy it. So Holy name is very very sweet, there are list of 10 offences in “Nectar of Devotion” one should be avoiding “apradha sunya hoiya laho Krishna nama”.
So become free from aparadha endeavour to become free from aparadha and faithfully keep chanting the Holy names of the Lord. Caitanya Mahaprabhu took to the chanting and he went mad, Narada Muni was enjoying, Caitanya Mahaprabhu was also enjoying and he goes to his Guru Maharaj, OH! This holy name is so sweet, OH! What kind of mantra you have given to me? “japite japite mantra karela pagal” I have become pagal, pagala baba, I have become pagal, madman chanting this holy names “kiba mantra dila gosai, kiba tara bala”. So much bala, so much strength, so much sweetness in this chanting I have just gone mad, I can’t help, I can’t just sit, I have to get up and what is this? So the same mantra this chanting of the holy name is the same mantra very kindly delivered to us by Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and the properties, you could talk in that terms the properties of the holy name and the soul are very similar, they have similar characteristics, they belong to same world, same family they have eternal connection, relationship, so just push yourself , don’t stop, keep going, keep chanting, you could discuss further , take advice, what changes could be made in your some habits or some life style, your dealings with others or matter of the world. The holy name is potent and sweet, so encourage everyone to chant don’t stop, success is in not stopping, don’t stop, beg holy name my dear holy name, I beg you please reveal unto me, just forgive my offences, give me intelligence OH! Holy name that I could avoid offences. You could be personal with the holy name because holy name is Lord himself, you could reveal your heart to be holy name and holy name is very very kind, could listen to your sincere prayers.
Question 2: Maharaj you talked about Lord Buddha, god is god since eternity nobody becomes God, but in case of Lord Buddha we see that at certain point of time he gets enlightenment, he performed austerities like what is the purpose of his behavior he performed austerities, he neither went to gurukul, neither anywhere?
Answer: (maharaj laughs) well he is God he doesn’t need to go to gurukul but on the other hand to become God realized he is performing austerities and penances and meditation. If you would not do so, he is teaching by his example. “yad yad acarati sresthas” (B.G 3.21) he doesn’t have to , Krishna went to ok Buddha did not go to gurukul and became disciple of spiritual master but Krishna went to Ujjain and he became disciple of Sandipani Muni, it wasn’t necessary he is God, it’s not necessary for him to become disciple, he is source of all knowledge .
Ram he also becomes disciple, Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu he had his Guru again he found his Guru in gaya the same town, Caitanya Mahaprabhu had gone to Gaya, Buddha had attained his enlightenment, he was enlightened in Gaya, same Gaya Caitanya Mahaprabhu found his spiritual master. So they don’t need to accept spiritual masters but they are playing these roles, setting examples so that we would learn from that. But as a God they may not sometimes follow whole thing, all the steps there is some formal acceptance of spiritual masters, rather Guru’s also, who has 24 gurus? Dattaraya, Dattaraya he had 24 gurus, even prostitute, a child and there is a whole list, a pigeon, earth, water, fire and like that there is 24 so he is learning from them. “cetya guru” Lord in the heart, Parmatma in the heart he is the 1st guru, infact because we don’t listen to him, Lord in the heart then he comes out or comes in front of us in the form of spiritual master or Lord speaks his message through somebody through his pure devotee who plays a role of Spiritual Master, so Lord would like to talk to the soul. The soul and the Supreme soul they are sitting next to each other, Kathoupanisad describes how this body is like a tree and on this tree there are to birds, one is Atma and other is Parmatma, they are just next to each other they are neighbors’, forever everybody that has soul the Lord is there. So he is speaking but we are go dull headed and what not, so we don’t listen to what he has to say so same Lord is then trying to teach us through the agency of spiritual master and there are so many other agencies around that we could learn from if Buddha didn’t accept formal initiation he is a Lord he doesn’t have to or he heard the Lord in the heart what he saw he came to conclusion. Those things the dead bodies was his gurus (laughs) made him think seriously it that ok (maharaja asking student).
(Student asking questions to maharaja) Question: what about austerity? Like it seems that if we follow him no needs to do austerities?
Answer: Without austerity you cannot achieve anything one of the big, big austerity in this world these days is to stay together, to stay together is a big austerity. So wife and husband they don’t want to perform that austerity, so many others , so many nations are getting broken into pieces, there is a big crowd in brahmachari ashram. Anyways that is one austerity, there are varieties of austerities to be performed by body, some by tongue “vacha”, some by mind, austerities one must perform in every staya, treta, dwapar, kali there are different means to achieve that goal or purification, the austerities are there, with austerity comes the purification “tapo divyam putrakayena satvam esmad suddhe bhrama saukhayam tvam anantam”
So as one performs austerities “tapa” “tapa” “tapa”, Brahma heard these two words in the very beginning he did not know what should I be doing? What is my goal? What is expected of me? And he was curious to know “athato brahma jigyasa” he heard two words, two letters “ta” and “pa” and as he puts those together “tapa” “tapa” “tapa” “tapa”.
He goes back to the lotus he sits there and he performs austerities. So very 1st and the only being that time in the whole universe he starts his spiritual life with austerities and that tapasya, purifies one and with that comes the real ananda, real bliss, real life, so tapasya is for cleansing, cleansing body, to make our talk refine in our speech, no vulgar language, no nasty, dirty things and speak the truth this is austerity, be kind and with mind of course whole things start with the mind if mind is not purified then the words, through the words and through the body we will be committing sins and offences. So the austerity of mind is there, of the speech, of the actions, Krishna describes this in Bhagvat Gita. So austerities ya! He peformed Budhha performed and so we also perform. Chanting of Hare Krishna is tapa, this japa is tapa, this japa is yagya, this japa is archana this japa is dhyana, so tapa is there. “samo damas tapah saucam” (18.42) Krishna is talking “brahama- karma svabhavajam” so tapasya is there. Ok so thank you very much.
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