What really happens to the jiva-souls who have chosen to leave their "real home" in the spiritual world, and live in the temporary material world created by Maha-Visnu?
To begin with, all the material bodily vessels in the material creation aquired by the visiting jiva-souls from Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana, belong to Maha-Visnu and must be purchased or "hired" from Him.
Secondly, the jiva-souls are eternal while the material bodily vessels they occupy are temporary.
Therefore, staying in the material creation also means the jiva-souls must accept the material cycle of repeated birth and death.
This is because the jiva-souls are eternal while the vessel they occupy is not.
Having a material bodily vessel allows the eternal "jiva-souls" to enter the material creation.
However, to stay in the material temporary creation means the jiva-souls are forced to change continuously their material bodily vessels because they are subject to decline, decay, old age and death.
Srila Prabhupada - "We are not the owner of this body, not the owner of the senses. The senses are "hired" from the Supreme Lord. This is very subtle understanding, one should know the proprietor of the senses is God." (March 1966 NY City USA)
Srila Prabhupada - "The "immediate" expansions of the Lord are called svāṁśa or "personal direct" expansions (Visnu-tattva). The "separated" expansions of the Lord are called vibhinnāṁśa - jiva-tattva or independent jiva-souls like us." (BG 10.37, Purport)
Each individual jiva-soul in the spiritual world can "choose" to "voluntarily" serve Krsna in an unlimited variety of ways, or even reject Him if they choose and enter the material world.
The jiva-souls ARE an eternal individual spiritual bodily form that originally looks like Krsna's "two-armed bodily form" in the spiritual world of Goloka-Vrindavana.
Each jiva-soul has their own unique personality separate from the Krsna's Personality that allows free will, free expression and voluntary service.
However, the outward appearance of the jiva-souls can change to an unlimited variety of bodily forms in the spiritual world, and not necessarily human either. They can appear as a flag pole, a blade of grass, a tree, a bench, a cow herd boy or girl, a cow, a shop owner, a cloud in the sky, a bird, etc.
There are unlimited choices of what one can look like but is almost inconceivable to understand this.
It is also inconceivable to understand that the spiritual worlds are a place where EVERYTHING is living and no dead matter or maya exists there.
If the jiva-souls voluntary choose to enter the Vaikuntha planets of Visnu/Narayana, they have a 4 armed bodily form similar to Lord Visnu, or a 4 armed bodily Form similar to Luxmi devi, Lord Visnu's consort.
Srila Prabhupada - "The human form is the full manifestation of the jiva-soul." (Melb, May 20, 1975)
Devotee – "Is the original body of the jiva-soul a human form?"
Srila Prabhupada – "Yes, human form. God is also human form. "Man is made after the shape of God." I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So God is also like human form, here you see Krsna, two hands, two legs."
Hari-sauri – "How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?"
Srila Prabhupada – "[describing material form first]: Yes, they are more covered, just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation, the human form is the full manifestation of the jiva-soul."
Hari-sauri - "They are covered in the spiritual world?"
Srila Prabhupada - "Not in the spiritual world, there that is voluntary. Some devotees want to serve Krsna as flower; then they become flower there, they lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna as a flower voluntarily, but he can change his form from flower to human body if one wants. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, 6.1.1-4 - Melb, May 20, 1975)
Srila Prabhupada – "Regarding your questions where are the spirit souls coming from? These spirit souls and all spirit souls are coming from Vaikuntha, but in these material worlds they are taking various grades of bodies according to their material activities. There is no new soul. New and old are due to this material body, but the soul is NEVER born and NEVER dies, so if there is no birth, so how there can be new soul?" (Letter to Jagadisa dasa 7/9/1970)
All jiva-souls are beginningless and endless, they were NEVER created, not even by Krsna because they have always existed, just like the Sun-disc and the sun-rays have always existed together.
Remember only "matter" is temporary like the material bodily vessels the perpetual jiva-souls are in as a passenger, they wear out and eventually decay, while the jiva-soul within can never decay or be destroyed in anyway.
All jiva-souls have existed for infinity without a beginning, nor will they ever have an ending.
The "jiva-souls" who have chosen to be covered by a temporary decaying material bodily vessels, are eternal in that decaying material bodily container and are therefore never subjected to the material vessels decay, impermanence, decline and death.
All jiva-souls are eternal and are eventually forced to abandon a worn out broken down unfit material bodily container, and given a new material body out of 8 million 400 thousand species of life, a rebirth in the endless cycle of birth and death in the material manifestation.
Taking birth again in the human species is very rare, many take it for granted their next life will be a human birth, in most cases, especially in Kali-yuga it isn't, most are reborn in the animal kingdom or lower as Bhagavad Gita As It Is explains.
The individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) have existed for "infinity" which means, just like Krsna, they are beginningless and endless, and were NEVER created.
To actually realize we never really die and have NEVER died is an eye opening realization and means our real home is in Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana where one never experiences birth, death or decay.
In the material temporary creation, this can mean something very horrible.
This is because we have ALWAYS existed without beginning or end, it IS possible we have lived within billions upon billions upon billions of material bodily vessels in another time, another place, a past material creation that goes back through infinity (never ending) and goes forward through infinity (also never ending)
It is important to understand there is no such thing as new jiva-souls being created because they have ALWAYS existed and were NEVER created as Bhagavad Gita explains.
Bhagavad Gita As It Is Chapter 2, Verse 12.
"Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be." (BG 2.12)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is "1983 correct edition," Chapter 2 text 20-
"For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 20 "correct" 1983 edition)
Srila Prabhupada – "There are no new souls, new and old are due to this material body, but the jiva-soul is never born and never dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?" (Letter to Jagadisa dasa, 7/9/1970)
Only matter is temporary (like the material bodily vessel the jiva-soul is presently in), while the jiva-souls in the material body are eternal and can NEVER cease to exist.
This means when the material vessels the jiva-soul is in, breaks down due to disease, decay or accidents, and ceases to function, also due to old age, the jiva-soul can no longer remain in that broken material body, and is forced to take another body in the womb of a new mother.
However, the jiva-souls contained in a "subtle material body", are forced to continuously change "gross material bodies" because of the temporary nature of the material creation.
Maha-Visnu has a "Costume shop" of material bodies for hire, all manifesting from His material dreams.
The fact is, to acquire a material bodily biological container, so the jiva-soul can enter a Brahmanda material universe's inner secondary universe within it, the jiva-soul must "hire" a bodily vessel from the owner of all "material bodily costumes" in the material creation, Maha-Visnu.
It is from Maha-Visnu's "Costume shop" that all material bodily vessels originate, and are available for hire to a visiting jiva-soul to the material creation so they can acquire a material body suitable for their desired existence in a material universe (Brahmanda)
Past, present, and future all exist simultaneously in the material world in the eyes of Maha-Visnu.
And all material bodily vessels we have are rented from Him like, just one gets a costume from a costume shop.
The facilities of bodily costumes and their pathway from birth to death is provided by Maha-Visnu.
The eternal individual jiva-souĺs are simply the passenger in the material body.
Material bodies or vessels we are contained in while active in the material creation, all come from Maha-Visnu's dreaming of the material universes, He provides all material bodily vessels.
Srila Prabhupada – "This material creation is the spirit soul’s dream. Actually all existence in the material world is a dream of Maha-Visnu, as the Brahma-Samhita describes–
"This material world is created by the dreaming of Maha-Visnu. The real, factual platform is the spiritual world, but when the spirit soul wants to imitate the Supreme Personality of Godhead, he is put into this dreamland of material creation." (SB Canto 4 Ch 29 text 83)
Srila Prabhupada - “Everything happening within time, which consists of past, present and future, is merely a dream. This is the secret in understanding in all the Vedic literature." (SB Canto 4 Ch 29 text 2b)
Srila Prabhupada - "Our contact with matter is just like dream. Actually we are not fallen. Therefore, because we are not fallen, at any moment we can revive our Krsna consciousness, we break the dream." (Tokyo Japan 1972, SB Canto 2 Ch 9 text 1)
Srila Prabhupada - "Factually all of material existence is only a dream. Thus there is no question of past, present or future. Persons who are addicted to karma-kanda-vicara, which means ‘working for future happiness through fruitive activities’, are also dreaming. Similarly, past happiness and present happiness are merely dreams." (SB Canto 4 Ch 29 text 2b)
Space-time is the fabric within each material universal universe (Brahmanda) responsible for the movement or flowing of time (past, present, future) in the material manifestation.
"Time" in the temporary material creation, is like a permanent roadway divided into past, present and future that all exists simultaneously, just like the beginning, middle and end of that roadway is always there, even after one traverses it?
In other words the movement of time (past, present and future) exists just like each part of the roadway exists, beginning, middle and end, after passing over it.
This means that within that fabric of space-time, the material bodily vessel we are in, IS just like being on a roadway that starts from it's birth, childhood, youth, middle age, old age and death.
The fact is, the jiva-souls are simply "the passengers" ''on that roadway,'' or "a passenger in the material body."
So, because the jiva-souls are NOT made of matter like the roadway or material body is, the decay and breakdown of matter has no affect on the jiva-souls who eternally remain indestructible and never dies.
The jiva-souls (eternal spiritual living entities that can NEVER be destroyed) are the passengers on that roadway simultaneously contained in a temporary decaying material bodily vessel.
As said above, the movement of past, present, and future all exist simultaneously in the material world through the eyes of its creator Maha-Visnu.
"Material time" is a continuous back-drop all-pervading the material creation vibrating its effects of impermanence, decay, death and rebirth within each Brahmanda universe.
We must not forget, all material bodily vessels, numbering 8 million 400 thousand species, are possessed by perpetual individual life, who are the eternal, indestructible jiva-souls who move all material bodily vessels.
Maha-Visnu knows all this because He is God, the cause of all causes, He knows all and sees all.
Maha-Visnu dreams the entire material creation which means every possible outcome that the individual jiva-souls dream up, or imagine already exists in His unlimited volt of material dreams.
As a result of all that is possible to exist, ALWAYS exists with every possible outcome, there are billions of Brahmanda universal shells, each with a smaller "secondary universe" deep within each Brahmanda where Maha-Visnu's expands as Garbhodakashayi Visnu.
And from His navel Lord Brahma appears who then builds the different planetary systems.
This happens in all of the billions of Brahmanda universes that originate from the pores and breathing of Maha-Visnu.
As explained above, deep within each Brahmanda is a secondary smaller material universe where Maha-Visnu expands as Garbhodakashayi Visnu and from Him Lord Brahma appears and builds a universe that has many planetary systems like our universe that is inside our surrounding Brahmanda universe, which has 14.
There is only one Maha-Visnu in the material creation but there are billions of Garbhodakashayi Visnus and Brahmas.
As already explained, the movement of material time (past, present, and future) allows everything to exist simultaneously in their own "time zone" within the material creation.
Just like we cannot see the heavenly realm on the Moon, because it is in its own subtle dimension of space-time different from our gross material dimension.
Maha-Visnu naturally knows all His creation, past, present and future. That should not be surprising, after all, He is Krsna's expansion called Visnu-tattva who has 93.75% of Krsna's qualities which is 60 of Krsna's 64 attributes) Maha-Visnu creates all the temporary material universes, called material worlds known as Brahmandas via His dreaming.
The word "world" does not only refer to our small earth global sphere we live on.
Our material universe, within its 14 planetary systems, is often collectively called a "world" too, and so is the massive surrounding Brahmanda universe our universe is incased in.
So, the question is, can the individual jiva-souls (jiva- souls who have 78.125% of Krsna's qualities or 50 of Krsna's 64 attributes) also realize that past, present, and future all exist simultaneously in the material worlds?
Or does Maha-Visnu and other Visnu-tattva expansion have the only capacity to see this?
The answer is no, other jiva-souls can also see this if Visnu allows it, Arjuna was shown past, present and future by Krsna as told in the Mahabharata chapter Bhagavad Gita.
So yes, Maha-Visnu sees all His dreams of the vast material universes (Brahmands) in full, meaning from beginning, the middle and end as a temporary reality and NOT an illusion, His dreams are real but temporary.
Rare jiva-souls who get above the flow of time can also see the whole road, beginning, middle and end, however, this is very rare.
Bhagavad Gita As It Is Chapter 11 Text 7 "The Universal Form"
"Whatever you wish to see can be seen all at once in this body. This universal form can show you all that you now desire, as well as whatever you may desire in the future. Everything is here completely."
Purport by Srila Prabhupada.
"No one can see the entire universe sitting in one place. Even the most advanced scientist cannot see what is going on in other parts of the universe. Krsna gives him the power to see anything he wants to see, past, present and future. Thus by the mercy of Krsna, Arjuna is able to see everything." (BG Ch, 11 Text 7)
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