Finally taṭastha-sakti is correctly understood as another name for marginal living entities who are inbetween the Spiritual energy and the material energy.
Srila Prabhupada - "So this material world is the taṭastha (conditioned) characteristics, and the spiritual world is the "personal" characteristics. So our effort is to get out of this taṭastha (conditioned) characteristics and to enter the permanent characteristics (Vaikuntha). That is called spiritual elevation". (Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.354-358 — New York, December 28, 1966)
Srila Prabhupada - "Because the individual soul is apt to fall down sometimes under the clutches of māyā, it is called Taṭastha-śakti. Just like in the seaside the shore, the beach, sometimes you see it is covered by water and sometimes it is land; similarly, when we are covered by māyā, that is our jīva-bhūta stage, and when there is no more covering, that is brahma-bhūta stage. When we are Kṛṣṇa conscious, then we are brahma-bhūta (SB 4.30.20), and when we are not Kṛṣṇa conscious, we are materially conscious, that is māyā".(Lecture on BG 7.4-5 -- Bombay, March 30, 1971)
It is said by some religious groups that the jiva souls are generated from a clear state of consciousness called tatastha-sakti (marginal plane), but this should be more clearly explained.
Tatastha-sakti is a terminology that simple means the jiva souls are in a category in-between the internal potency and external potency of the Lord known as Krishna's "marginal living entities, potency or energy" who are individual jiva souls that are part and parcel of a universal collective or category of jiva souls who have 78.125% of Krishna's 100% qualities.
This means each individual jiva soul in that category of the "marginal living entities" can possess 50 of Krishna's 64 attributes.
Srila Prabhupada - "The spiritual world is expansion of Kṛṣṇa's internal energy, and this material world is Kṛṣṇa's expansion of external energy, and we living entities, we are expansion of marginal energy.
So three energies. Krishna has got multi-energies. All the multi-energies grouped in three headings:
1 - antaraṅga-śakti,
2 - bahiraṅga-śakti,
3 - taṭastha-śakti.
1 - Antaraṅga-śakti means internal energy,
2 - bahiraṅga śakti means external energy,
3 - taṭastha-śakti means these living entities.
We are śakti; we are energy.(jiva-tattva) We are not the energetic (Vishnu-tattva)
The Māyāvādī philosopher says that because the energies are not outside Brahman, therefore they're all the same. This is monism.
Our Vaiṣṇava philosophy is that energy (is) simultaneously one and different.
When you perceive heat, we understand, "Oh, there is fire." But that does not mean that because I am getting some heat, I am on the fire.
Try to understand this philosophy.
Therefore here it is said vijānataḥ - "one who knows."
So their ekatvam, Māyāvāda philosophy's ekatvam, oneness, and our ekatvam of oneness—a little different.
They say that the energy's false; the Brahman is real. Brahmā satyaṁ jagan mithyā.
We say that because Brahman is truth, therefore His energy's also truth. That is the difference between Vaiṣṇava philosophy and Māyāvāda philosophy. We cannot say that energy is false. Energy is temporary; this external energy is temporary, not false.
Although, suppose we have got some trouble. There are so many kinds of troubles pertaining to the body, mind, external affairs. But that trouble comes and goes. But when the trouble is there, it is true. We feel the consequence. We cannot say it is false.
The Māyāvādī philosophers say that it is false. But when he's troubled, why he's so much disturbed? So that is not false. Therefore this very word is used: vijānataḥ, "one who knows."
Perfect knowledge must be there, vijānataḥ. When one is actual knower of the things, tatra ko mohaḥ, then there is no illusion.
Illusion is for him who does not know things. But one who knows, there is no illusion.
Tatra ko mohaḥ kaḥ śoka. No lamentation. When you are perfectly in conviction that there is nothing except Kṛṣṇa, and Kṛṣṇa's energy, the same, then there is no moha—moha means illusion—and śoka (Lecture on Sri Isopanishad Los Angeles, May 10, 1970)
The marginal living entities, marginal potency or jiva souls are therefore ALWAYS found throughout the entire Spiritual Sky in four different realms
1 - From associating with Krishna in Goloka-Vrindavana as a friend and four other different ways.
2 - Serving Vishnu as the Supreme God in Vaikuntha.
3 - Being embodied (covered) in a temporary material bodily vessel in the material creation.
4 - And attempting to cease one's existence in the dormant inactive impersonal Brahmajyoti, therefore entering the Impersonal Brahmajyoti or Brahman to Vaiṣṇavas is considered Spiritual suicide.
However, such merging is also only temporary even though the jiva soul can stay there for a very very long time.
They eventually full out of the impersonal Brahmajyoti because the nature of the jiva soul is to be active and have a life.
In fact, the jiva soul can stay there for so long that when they again awaken from their impersonal inactive slumber, they wrongly believe the impersonal Brahmajyoti is their origin.
They forget they fell to that dormant condition in the first place a long, long, long time ago that can equal quadrillions of life times of Lord Brahma who lives for 311 trillion 40 billion human years.
Therefore "jiva souls" (marginal living entities) did NOT originate from some impersonal inactive place or plane some call "a clear sheet of consciousness" because originally all jiva souls were with Krishna but at sometime some fell to the material creation, then again after sometime, fell further to the impersonal Brahmajyoti or Brahman
The marginal plane is also called tatastha-sakti but used more so to describe those jiva souls in the impersonal Brahmajyoti and material creation as Prabhupada explains.
Srila Prabhupada - "So this material world is the taṭastha (conditioned) characteristics, and the spiritual world is the "personal" characteristics. So our effort is to get out of this taṭastha (conditioned) characteristics and to enter the permanent characteristics (Vaikuntha). That is called spiritual elevation". (Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.354-358 — New York, December 28, 1966)
The term Tatastha-sakti is generally not used to describe souls in the Spiritual world, it is used to describe those souls in-between the Spiritual Worlds and the material worlds of being sometimes on this side (Spiritual realm) and sometimes on that side (material realm)
Tatastha-sakti is therefore NOT a place in the Cosmos, it is another name for all the jiva souls (marginal living entities) who are spread throughout the Spiritual Sky (both Spiritual and Material Worlds).
So tatastha-sakti is called the marginal plane or energy however, it is important to understand the marginal living entities in the Spiritual Worlds are NOT called tatastha-sakti even though they are ALWAYS marginal living entities.
Prabhupada explains here the jiva souls are NOT described as tatastha sakti in the active Spiritual Worlds of the Vaikuntha Planets and Goloka Vrindavana.
Srila Prabhupada - "So this material world is the taṭastha (conditioned) characteristics, and the spiritual world is the "personal" characteristics. So our effort is to get out of this taṭastha (conditioned) characteristics and to enter the permanent characteristics (Vaikuntha). That is called spiritual elevation". (Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.354-358 — New York, December 28, 1966)
The idea that the jiva souls originate from some place called the marginal plane or tatastha-sakti needs a clearer deeper understanding because the "marginal living entities" ARE the marginal plane that are a collective of eternal jiva souls without any beginning point spread throughout the Spiritual Sky
Therefore in the impersonal Brahmajyoti and material creation, the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) are more known as and described as tatastha-sakti.
Tatastha-sakti is a conditioned designation describing those jiva-souls in the impersonal Brahmajyoti and material creation and NOT those jiva souls (marginal living entities) who are in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana.
This is important to try and understand as the marginal living entity has many different names describing their position and condition and Tatastha-sakti is one of those names.
The jiva souls (marginal potency) were NOT created from a "clear sheet of consciousness" either because they have ALWAYS existed everywhere (sarva-gatah means life is everywhere).
The jiva souls may fall to an "inactive" or dormant state in the impersonal Brahmajyoti, but they certainly did not originate from there.
Even entering the impersonal Brahmajyoti or Brahman is also only temporary relief for the jiva souls who entered there to escape the suffering and pain of being embodied in the material world.
Although they can stay in the impersonal Brahmajyoti for a very, very, very long time, so long a time that some foolishly believe it is where they originated from after emerging from there.
It should be made clear the dormant inactive aspect of the Brahmajyoti is NOT the origin of the jiva-soul, it is actually a fall state.
The fact is, as emphasised, the individual jiva souls are NOT "literally generated from or originate" from anywhere including the impersonal Brahmajyoti because they have ALWAYS existed as part and parcel of the "marginal plane collective" of Krishna's energies that are individual souls spread throughout the entire Spiritual Sky (material and Spiritual Worlds).
The jiva souls or marginal living entities (as individual persons) are throughout the Spiritual Sky that includes Vaikuntha, Goloka Vrindavana, the material creation and the dorment Brahmajyoti.
The marginal living entities are a unlimited number of individual PERSONS (jiva souls) who in their full potential are as follows-
sat,
chit,
ananda,
vigraha.
This means in English the individual jiva souls are-
eternity,
Knowledge,
bliss,
Bodily form.
This ORIGINAL eternal form of the jiva soul is a bodily form like Krishnas Prabhupada has said, two arms, two legs etc like Krishna has in Vṛndāvana.
All of Krishna's marginal so called 'sparks' and so called 'atoms (souls) in the effulgence that impersonalists claim are bodiless and dormant, are in that conditioned state because they are fallen and have forgotten their original two armed spiritual bodily form in Goloka Vrindavana.
Only in the conditioned fallen state does the marginal living entity (jiva souls) merge into the impersonal Brahmajyoti.
As said above, the marginal living entities or jiva souls are not called tatastha sakti in Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana as Prabhupada has explained above.
Revatīnandana - "Srila Prabhupāda you very clearly explained to me once in a letter that if the spirit soul then goes into the brahmajyoti, he is considered still fallen. Still fallen. Does that means the whole brahmajyoti is composed of fallen souls? You see my question? If I go there, I'm a jīva soul, and I go to the brahmajyoti I'm still fallen".
Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes".
Revatīnandana - "That means all jīva souls there are also fallen souls?".
Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes".(Room Conversation August 17, 1971, London)
Srila Prabhupada - ''Existence in the impersonal brahman is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness. Those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. (Letter to: Revatinandana, Los Angeles 13 June, 1970)
Srila Prabhupada - ''When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition. The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness'' (Letter to: Revatinandana, Los Angeles 13 June, 1970)
In the jiva souls original state, they have the same bodily features like Krishna - sat-cit-ananda-vigraha.
The full potential and original feature of all marginal living entities is a two arm human looking form.
Yasomatinandana – “Is the original body of the spirit soul a human form?”
Srila Prabhupada – “Yes, human form. God is also human form. "Man is made after the shape of God." I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So God is also like human form. Here you see Krishna, two hands, two legs”.
Hari-sauri – “How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?”
Srila Prabhupada – “[describing material form first]: Yes. They are more covered. Just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of the soul”.
Hari-sauri - “They are covered in the spiritual world?”
Srila Prabhupada - “Not in the spiritual world. There that is voluntary. Some devotee wants to serve Krishna as flower; they become flower there. If I want that "As a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krishna," he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krishna as cow, he serves Krishna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact". (Srimad Bhagavatam 6.1.1-4 - Melbourne, May 20, 1975)
Ye yatha mam prapadyante tams tathaiva bhajamy aham [Bg. 4.11].
That is Krishna’s all-powerfulness, spiritual life."
The English word "generated" can be misleading if not properly understood because that word can mean a beginning point, or an origin point however, the jiva souls have no origin or beginning point because they have always existed and were never created as Bhagavad Gita teaches us. (BG 2.12)
The marginal living entities (jiva souls) were always originally a bodily PERSON first, but some later, due to fall down from the Vaikuntha, eventually became a dormant spark in the Brahmajyoti, or an inactive dormant almost dead position in the material atom as Prabhupada explained to Tamal Krishna Maharaj.
Srila Prabhupada – "There is no new soul. New and old are due to this material body, but the soul is NEVER born and NEVER dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?''. (Letter to Jagadisa 7/9/1970)
The use of this word "generated" really means the jiva souls (marginal living entities) are part and parcel in the category called the ''marginal energy or potency'', who are a collective of an unlimited number of individual jiva souls who are eternal, meaning they have ALWAYS existed in all the Spiritual Sky but only called tatastha-sakti while conditioned in the material creation and impersonal Brahmajyoti.
As said above, the jiva souls were NEVER created or created from any origin (starting point) because there is NO origin of the jiva souls, they have ALWAYS existed without beginning or end.
So the proper understanding is the marginal living entities, energy or potency (jiva souls) are known in the material conditioned state as "tatastha sakti" but NOT referred to that name in their original Spiritual bodily form in Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana.
The jiva souls are always known as the marginal living entities in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana too, but as their perpetual Svarupa bodies of their choice, and not known there as tatastha sakti (even though they are always marginal living entities and Tatastha sakti) which is a term more used outside the Spiritual Worlds.
The marginal living entities (jiva souls) in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana are genuinely NOT called tatastha-sakti (even though they are always marginal living entities in both the Spiritual and Material Worlds) because that term Tatastha sakti describes the conditioned souls only as Prabhupada explains here-
Srila Prabhupada - "Because the individual soul is apt to fall down sometimes under the clutches of māyā, it is called Taṭastha-śakti. When we are Kṛṣṇa conscious, then we are brahma-bhūta (SB 4.30.20), and when we are not Kṛṣṇa conscious, we are materially conscious, that is māyā".(Lecture on BG 7.4-5 -- Bombay, March 30, 1971)
Prabhupada explaining the marginal living entities (jiva souls) and Tatastha sakti.
Srila Prabhupada - "The Lord remembers all, but His associates, although liberated souls, forget due to their being taṭasthā śakti, or marginal potency of the Lord.
That is the difference between the viṣṇu-tattva and jīva-tattva. The jīva-tattvas are infinitesimal potential particles of the Lord, and therefore they require the protection of the Lord at all times.
And to the eternal servitors of the Lord, the Lord is pleased to give all protection at all times. The liberated souls never, therefore, think themselves as free as the Lord or as powerful as the Lord, but they always seek the protection of the Lord in all circumstances, both in the material world and in the spiritual world.
This dependence of the liberated soul is constitutional, for the liberated souls are like sparks of a fire that are able to exhibit the glow of fire along with the fire and not independently.
Independently the glow of the sparks is extinguished, although the quality of fire or the glowing is there.
Thus those who give up the protection of the Lord and become so-called lords themselves, out of spiritual ignorance, come back again to this material world, even after prolonged tapasya of the severest type. That is the verdict of all Vedic literature". (SB 1.14.32-33, Purport)
Srila Prabhupada - "So this material world is the taṭastha (conditioned) characteristics, and the spiritual world is the "personal" characteristics. So our effort is to get out of this taṭastha (conditioned) characteristics and to enter the permanent characteristics (Vaikuntha). That is called spiritual elevation". (Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.354-358 — New York, December 28, 1966)
Srila Prabhupada - "Twenty-five percent of Krishna's personal radiation (effulgence) comprehends the entire expansion of the material universes.
This is also explained and stated in the Bhagavad-gītā (10.42). Thus the seventy-five percent expansion of His radiation is called His internal energy, whereas the twenty-five percent expansion is called the external energy of the Lord.
The living entities, who are residents of the spiritual as well as the material expansions, are His marginal energy (taṭastha-śakti), and they are at liberty to live in either of the energies, external or internal.
Those who live within the spiritual expansion of the Lord are called liberated souls, whereas the residents of the external expansion are called the conditioned souls". (SB 2.6.17, Purport)
Srila Prabhupada - "According to Viṣṇu Purāṇa, Bhagavad-gītā and all other Vedic literatures, the living entities are generated from the taṭasthā energy of the Lord, and thus they are always the energy of the Lord and are not the energetic.
The living entities are like the sun's rays. Although, as explained above, there is no qualitative difference between the sun and its rays, the sun's rays are sometimes overpowered by another energy of the sun, namely by clouds or by snowfall.
Similarly, although the living entities are qualitatively one with the superior energy of the Lord, they have the tendency to be overpowered by the inferior, material energy.
In the Vedic hymns it is said that the living entities are like the sparks of a fire. The sparks of fire also are fire, but the burning potency of the sparks is different from that of the original fire.
When the sparks fly out of touch with the original fire, they come under the influence of a nonfiery atmosphere; thus they maintain the potency to be again one with the fire as sparks, but not as the original fire.
The sparks can everlastingly remain within the original fire as its parts and parcels, but the moment the sparks become separated from the original fire, their misfortunes and miseries begin.
The clear conclusion is that the Supreme Lord, who is the original fire, is never overpowered, but the infinitesimal sparks of the fire can become overpowered by the illusory effect of māyā". (SB 3.7.9, Purport)
Srila Prabhupada - "Paramātmā, the Supersoul, is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and He is eternally liberated.
In other words, the Supreme Personality of Godhead is living within this body along with the individual soul, and this is confirmed in the Vedas.
They are likened to two friends sitting on the same tree. Yet Paramātmā is above the illusory energy.
The illusory energy is called bahiraṅgā śakti, or external energy, and the living entity is called taṭasthā śakti, or marginal potency.
As stated in Bhagavad-gītā, the material energy, represented as earth, water, air, fire, sky, etc., and the spiritual energy, the living entity, are both energies of the Supreme Lord.
Even though the energies and the energetic are identical, the living entity, individual soul, being prone to be influenced by the external energy, considers the Supreme Personality of Godhead to be one with himself". (SB 4, 22 38, Purport)
Srila Prabhupada - "The Supreme Personality of Godhead has three primary energies, or potencies.
The first is called antaraṅga-śakti, or the internal potency.
The second is called taṭastha-śakti, or the marginal potency.
The third is called bahiraṅga-śakti, or the external potency.
The living entities constitute the marginal potency, and they are situated between the internal and external Potencies.
Being subordinate as eternal servants of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the jīvātmās, or atomic living entities, must remain under the control of either the internal or external potency.
When they are under the control of the internal potency, they display their natural, constitutional activity—namely, constant engagement in the devotional service of the Lord". (Nectar of Instruction 2, Purport)
Srila Prabhupada - "The Vaikuṇṭha planets are a product of the spiritual energy of the Lord.
The living entities belong to this spiritual energy, but because they can reside in either the spiritual world or the material world, even though they are originally spiritual they are designated as taṭastha-śakti, or "marginal potency."
The Vaikuṇṭha planets are a manifestation of the Lord's internal potency, while the material world is a manifestation of His external potency.
Since the Supreme Lord is the master of all energies, it is an irrefutable fact that He is in full control of both the spiritual and material worlds. (Renunciation Through Wisdom 2.8)
Srila Prabhupada - "Krsna has three main energies
1 - external energy,
2 - internal energy,
3 - marginal energy.
The external energy is this material expansion, manifestation.
Similarly, there is internal energy, the spiritual world manifestation, and in between them there is another energy called marginal energy, taṭastha, that we are, we living entities. We are His marginal energy.
Marginal energy means we can live either in this external energy or in the internal energy, in between.
So at the present moment we are living in the external energy. But this external energy is also Kṛṣṇa's energies, God's energy. It is not different from Him.
But the external energy means we are captivated by the external energy. But the external energy is not permanent.
The internal energy is permanent. The spiritual world is permanent, and we are also permanent, jīva-bhūta. Na hanyate hanyamāne śarīre (BG 2.20). (Lecture on BG 9.4 -- Melbourne, April 23, 1976)
Prabhupada also explains the jiva souls (marginal living entities) do not originate from the impersonal Brahmajyoti or Maha Vishnu within His material creation.
The Sanskrit word "sarva-gatah" means life (individual jiva souls) are EVERYWHERE however there are many different categories of sakti.
The "marginal plane or potency" is NOT a place where souls are created from, or originate from because they have no origin as clearly explained above, they have ALWAYS existed as the marginal living entities and their existence in the impersonal Brahmajyoti or Brahman is a inactive dormant condition or state of consciousness the jiva-souls fall too.
The marginal living entities or jiva souls did NOT originate from a fallen condition, long, long ago in the impersonal Brahmajyoti or Brahman. Before that fall down they were with Krishna in the active Spiritual Planets.
As Prabhupada explains above, in Goloka Vrindavana and Vaikuntha, the marginal living entities are are not called tatastha sakti because tatastha-sakti is a "conditioned description of the marginal living entities" describing their existence ONLY in the material creation and impersonal Brahmajyoti.
Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana are the marginal living entities (jiva souls) original homes where they can use their free will to choose their relationship with Krishna.
Srila Prabhupada - “The jiva-soul's position in the spiritual world is voluntary. Some devotee wants to serve Krishna as flower; they become flower there. If I want that "As a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krishna," he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krishna as cow, he serves Krishna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact". (Srimad Bhagavatam 6.1.1-4 - Melbourne, May 20, 1975)
The "marginal plane" IS a collective of an unlimited number of perpetual individual "jiva souls" who are all around us throughout the Spiritual Sky (sarva-gatah) and have ALWAYS existed without beginning or end as Bhagavad Gita teaches.
Therefore no jiva souls were ever created from some point of origin in the Cosmos called tatastha-sakti as many wrongly believe.
They may fall to that condition but certainly do not originate from there.
Tatastha-sakti is a term describing the a "conditioned state of marginal living entities (jiva souls)" in the material creation and impersonal Brahmajyoti, and is not a word that describes the marginal living entities in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana.
Some other religious cults foolishly claim the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) originate from an "impersonal" clear sheet of consciousness from the impersonal Brahmajyoti or Brahman that they believe is the origin of the marginal plane or tatastha-sakti.
However, the impersonal Brahmajyoti or Brahman is NOT the origin of the marginal living entities (tatastha-sakti), in fact as said above, tatastha-sakti is the FALLEN condition state of the marginal living entity (jiva-soul).
Srila Prabhupada - "So this material world is the taṭastha (conditioned) characteristics, and the spiritual world is the "personal" characteristics. So our effort is to get out of this taṭastha (conditioned) characteristics and to enter the permanent characteristics (Vaikuntha). That is called spiritual elevation". (Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.354-358 — New York, December 28, 1966)
Srila Prabhupada - "Because the individual soul is apt to fall down sometimes under the clutches of māyā, it is called Taṭastha-śakti. When we are Kṛṣṇa conscious, then we are brahma-bhūta (SB 4.30.20), and when we are not Kṛṣṇa conscious, we are materially conscious, that is māyā". (Lecture on BG 7.4-5 -- Bombay, March 30, 1971)
The marginal living entities fall to that conditioned state in the impersonal Brahmajyoti some also call tatastha-sakti.
The individual jiva souls ARE marginal in two different categories.
1 - As the marginal living entity in the condition state known as tatastha sakti ONLY in the material creation and impersonal Brahmajyoti.
2 - As the marginal living entity as their Svarupa Spiritual bodily form in Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavan (where the marginal living entities are not know as tatastha-sakti)
The jiva-souls are ALWAYS the marginal plane or potency, be it in the material creation, impersonal Brahmajyoti or the Spiritual Worlds of Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana.
Yet the marginal living entities have different names describing their position.
There are 160 other other names for the marginal living entity in the material creation, impersonal Brahmajyoti and Spiritual Worlds.
The fact is, on the Spiritual platform there is no creation of more individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) because they were NEVER created, they have ALWAYS existed just like Krishna has.
In other words, just like the Sun disc maintains the Sun-rays because the Sun-rays CANNOT exist without the Sun-disc, similarly Krishna has no meaning without His devotees like the Sun-disc has no meaning without the Sun-rays.
The jiva souls were NEVER created, explained here Chapter 2 Text 20 Bhagavad Gita As It Is-
"For the soul there is never birth nor death. Nor, having once been, does he ever cease to be. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing, undying and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain". (BG Chapter 2 Text 20)
The jiva-souls are unique individual PERSONS who are independent parts and parcel of Krishna, yet dependent on Krishna like the sunrays are dependent on the Sun.
So it is clear the jiva souls are eternal without beginning or end and were NEVER generated (created) from some origin point like the impersonal Brahmajyoti called tatastha-sakti as some other sangas (religious cults) wrongly believe.
Each of Krishna’s jiva-tattva devotees, interacts with Krishna by their "free will" and CHOOSES one of five primary relationships.
All jiva souls are EQUALLY intimate with Krishna because in the Spiritual World all relationships with Krishna are equally blissful, just like one may like a carnation flower while others choose to like a rose flower.
Srila Prabhupada - “The jiva-soul's position in the spiritual world is voluntary. Some devotee wants to serve Krishna as flower; they become flower there. If I want that "As a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krishna," he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krishna as cow, he serves Krishna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact". (Srimad Bhagavatam 6.1.1-4 - Melbourne, May 20, 1975)
Loving voluntary relationships with Krishna that one can choose number from one to five.
These five are -
1 - Neutrality,
2 - Servitude,
3 - Friendship,
4 - Parental affection,
5 - And conjugal love.
- From your servant Gauragopala Dasa ACBSP
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