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As soon as. As soon as one tries to become independent without serving Krsna, that means he is in maya. He's in maya. Immediately maya is there. Just like as soon as you become a criminal, a thief, immediately you are under the jurisdiction of the police, immediately, without the... You may hide yourself for time being, but immediately you have become criminal. Similarly, as soon as one is not Krsna conscious, he's immediately a criminal, punishable. Therefore Krsna said, na mam duskrtino mudhah prapadyante naradhamah, mayayapahrta... [Bg. 7.15]. He does not know what he's doing, this rascal naradhamah, mudha. These mudhas... Therefore when we say that a man who is not Krsna conscious, he is naradhamah, mudhah, that is a fact. But the world is such that satyam bruyat priyam bruyat ma bruyat satyam apriyam. They want if you can say the truth, but don't say the unpalatable truth. But that is social etiquette. When you speak about spiritual life there is no such scope. You must speak the truth: "Yes, you are rascal. Because you are not Krsna conscious: rascal, mudha. You are sinful. You are lowest of the mankind." Krsna says. Krsna says, na mam duskrtino mudhah.

By H.D.G. Srila Prabhupada