The jiva-soul's relationship with Krsna (God) in His Kingdom is NEVER a

The jiva-souls in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana are forever voluntarily expanding their variety of personal expressions that come from their own individuality, personality and free will.

This is constantly achieved with increasing offerings to Krsna based on loving exchanges and reciprocation.

Srila Prabhupada – "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" (Washington DC July 8, 1976)

Real love or Bhakti is reciprocal, it is NEVER a "one sided affair" where surrender to Krsna takes away the individual jiva-soul's independent sense of self, free will and their personal unique contributions of voluntary offerings to Krsna.

Each individual jiva-soul has their own independent personality (yet dependent on Krsna), separate from Krsna's Personality, which means having their own sense of self, personality and unique identity that THEY only uniquely have.

These attributes are part and parcel of each individual marginal living entity (jiva-soul) making each jiva-soul the unique "PERSON" they are eternally.

"Free will" in its full potential, is ONLY fully experienced in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavan, which is the jiva-souls original perpetual home.

The mundane dead material creation where repeated birth and death is continually experienced, is NOT the jiva-soul's real home.

This is because the jiva-souls, who have chosen to enter the material creation, are then forced to possess temporary material bodily vessels that are always in a constant state of maintenance and decomposition.

Such troublesome material vessels are NOT who the jiva-souls really are.

You must have the right type of material body (subtle body) and accumulation of pious activities in order to enter other heavenly material planets that are all around us.

Such heavenly realms are NOT visible or possible to visit for those in a gross material body.

Therefore even going to those planets in space crafts, as Astronauts have achieved while confined in their gross material body, does not reveal to them the opulent heavenly atmosphere on other planets all around us.

Srila Prabhupada - The material body is just a covering of the spiritual soul.

Mind and intelligence are the undercoverings, and the gross body of earth, water, air, etc., is the overcoating of the soul.

As such, any advanced soul who has realized himself by the yogic process, who knows the relationship between matter and spirit, can leave the gross dress of the soul in perfect order and as he desires.

By the grace of God, we have complete freedom. Because the Lord is kind to us, we can live anywhere—either in the spiritual sky or in the material sky, upon whichever planet we desire.

However, misuse of this freedom causes one to fall down into the material world and suffer the threefold miseries of conditioned life.

The living of a miserable life in the material world by dint of the soul's choice is nicely illustrated by Milton in Paradise Lost. Similarly, by choice the soul can regain paradise and return home, back to Godhead.

At the critical time of death, one can place the vital force between the two eyebrows and decide where he wants to go.

If he is reluctant to maintain any connection with the material world, he can, in less than a second, reach the transcendental Vaikuṇṭha and appear there completely in his spiritual body which will be suitable for him in the spiritual atmosphere.

He has simply to desire to leave the material world in both finer and grosser forms and then move the vital force to the topmost part of the skull and leave the body from the hole in the skull called the brahma-randhra.

This is the highest perfection in the practice of yoga.

Of course man is endowed with free will, and as such if he does not want to free himself of the material world he may enjoy the life of brahma-pāda (occupation of the post of Brahmā) and visit Siddhaloka, the planets of materially perfect beings who have full abilities to control gravity, space, time, etc.

To visit these higher planets in the material universe, one need not give up his mind and intelligence (finer matter), but need only give up grosser matter (the gross material body).

Man-made satellites and mechanical space vehicles (made out of gross matter) will NEVER be able to carry human beings (while in their "gross material body") to the higher dimentional planets of outer space.

Men cannot even go on their much-advertised trips (to the heavenly subtle atmosphere) on moon, for, as we have already stated, the (subtle material) atmosphere on such higher planets is different from the (gross material) atmosphere here on earth.

Each and every planet has its particular atmosphere, and if one wants to travel to any particular planet within the material universe, one has to have a material body exactly adapted to the climatic condition of that planet.

For instance, if one wants to go from India to Europe, where the climatic condition is different, one has to change his dress accordingly.

Similarly, a complete change of body is necessary if one wants to go to the transcendental planets of Vaikuṇṭha. (Easy Journey to Other Planets 1)

Srila Prabhupada - "Free will means that you can act wrongly. That is free will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free will."

Hayagriva - "A man may know better but still act wrongly".

Srila Prabhupada -"Yes", but that is free will. He misuses his. Just like a thief, he knows that his stealing, it is bad, but still he does it. That is free will.

He cannot check his greediness, so in spite of his knowing that he is doing wrong thing—he will be punished, he knows; he has seen another thief, he was punished, he was put into prison— everything he knows, but still he steals.

Why? Misuse of free will.

Unless there is misuse of free will, there is no question of free will. (Excerpt from: Philosophy Discussions with Srila Prabhupada – Rene Descartes)

Vipina Purandara - “Why doesn’t Krsna protect me from thinking independently from Him?"

Srila Prabhupada - “That means you lose your independence. That is force, in Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy, ‘You love me, you love me, you love me.’ ” Is it love? “You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love? (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.)

There is always a choice and that is why "free will" ALWAYS exists in God's Kingdom's of Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana otherwise we are no better than dead emotionless stone.

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you MUST have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life". (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

Srila Prabhupada - “The jiva-soul's position in the spiritual world is voluntary.

Some devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there voluntarily.

If I want that - "As a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna," he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body.

That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact". (Srimad Bhagavatam 6.1.1-4 - Melbourne, May 20, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada explains, the relationship between Krsna and the individual soul is never a "one way" domineering dictatorial relationship that denies personal contributions and choices.

No, love is ALWAYS based on the reciprocation between two because love can only exist when there is two as Prabhupada explains-

Srila Prabhupāda – ”Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there”. (August 9, 1976, Tehran)

Srila Prabhupada – “So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence, that is force.” (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada – “So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom.” (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes).**.

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