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Thank you all for coming here very much, this evening. Actually the seminar, I originally
thought of giving this time was on Srimad Bhagavatam and the other day in New Vrindavan.
When we were in New Vrindavan, I was discussing with mother Krsna Priya about the seminar,
then I realized to cover or to do justice to Srimad bhagavatam in four days, two hours sessions
will not be possible. Therefore I was thinking, I have to give a seminar on some topic rather
instead of presenting the entire Srimad Bhagavatam, I thought of selecting some specific topic
from Srimad Bhagavatam and give the seminar on that. Then it occurred to me that recently, in
South Africa, I saw there was a big advertisement, many billboards and many posters
announcing the seminar that to be given by someone from India, a spiritualist from India and the
title of that seminar was “The Art of Living”. When I saw that posters, I was thinking a Sadhu’s
business was not to give seminars on Art of Living, because whenever one takes to spiritual life,
one thing one realizes is that the real goal of life is not here, it is beyond this material nature and
then it occurred to me why don’t I give a seminar on Art of Dying and then it occurred to me that
actually Srimad Bhagavatam is extensively deep dealing with this topic the Art of Dying and that
Art of Dying is actually leading to the way to immortality. If one knows how to die, then he
attains immortality, he attains immortal life. So that is the ultimate objective of spiritual
persuasion, spiritual pursuit. It occurred to me at that time, that actually this would be an
appropriate topic, to give a seminar on, the Art of Dying, the way to immortality. And Srimad
Bhagavatam is actually teaching us that art. Although Srimad Bhagavatam originated when
Vyasadeva was summarizing the teachings of the Vedas and trying to present it in such a way
that the disturbed and distressed short living entities of this age of Kali could understand the
purpose of Srimad Bhagavatam or the purpose of the Vedic wisdom and he systematically
analyzed the Vedic wisdom. First he divided the Vedas into four then he wrote different aspects
of Vedic wisdom like dharma Shasta, Itihasa, Puranas and Upanishads. These are different
branches of Darshans and these are all different branches of Vedic wisdom and finally he
presented the summary of the essential understanding of the entire Vedic wisdom in the form of
Vedanta sutra, the aphorism of Vedanta and still when he was not feeling totally content, then
Narada Muni appeared to him and instructed to him to present Srimad Bhagavatam which is the
unalloyed glorification of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. And in this way, Srimad
Bhagavatam was presented by Srila Vyasadeva as the summary and the essence of the entire
Vedic wisdom. ‘Nigamaha kalpa tarur’ the ripe fruit of the desire tree of the Vedic wisdom. So
that is what Srimad Bhagavatam was, as it was presented by Srila Vyasadeva. But then this
Srimad Bhagavatam became further, God’s nectarean aspect due to the presentation of Sukadeva
Goswami. So the real presentation of Srimad Bhagavatam was actually made by Srila Sukadeva
Goswami. But what was the occasion? It’s very interesting. What was the occasion of the
presentation? The King of this planet Maharaja Pariksit, he was cursed by Kali, the personality
who is predominating this age, whose business is to establish irreligiosity, whose business is to
introduce sinful activities and promote sinful life. That personality, Kali, considered Pariksit
Maharaja, to be the arch enemy; his arch enemy and he realized that in order to establish his
purpose, in order to establish himself, or his objective, he has to get rid of this King Pariksit
Maharaja. And he did not have the means or the ability to get rid of Pariksit Maharaja, but
Pariksit Maharaja was too powerful for him. Therefore he arranged that a Brahman boy for
cursing and this boy were so powerful although he was just a boy of seven or eight yrs old but he
cursed Pariksit Maharaja. That’s a long story and I am skipping the details and I am sure all of
you know what the occasion was and so this Brahman cursed Pariksit Maharaja that he would die
within seven days and when Pariksit Maharaja got the news that he has been cursed, that he is
going to die in seven days or he has only seven days left. So Pariksit Maharaja did not try to
counteract the curse, he just left everything, left his kingdom, left his palace, left his family, left
everything, and he went to the bank of Ganges in order to prepare himself for this occasion of
dying. He has seven days to die so okay, let me take advantage of the seventh day and prepared
myself to die. And he just sat down, although he was a king and not just a king, he was a king of
the entire earth planet including the ocean. That is how it has been described sa sagara, sagara
means ocean, sa means along with or including. So he was a ruler of the earth planet including
the ocean, the entire planet. But he became completely detached because he knew to begin with,
he knew that some day he has to leave this world. A person who is situated in knowledge, he
knows that one day he will have to die. One who is born is bound to die. The word druva means
fixed, unwavering, or you can say absolute, truth. This truth is unavoidable isn’t it? In the
material nature, although this material nature is a relative reality, here everything is relative. But
there is only one absolute truth in this material nature. What is that absolute truth? That
everybody has to die. So even in this relative reality, there is one absolute truth that is death. So
one who is situated in knowledge knows that he has to die. But those who are ignorant, they try
to avoid death. Well, it’s natural, one does actually in reality, and one does not want to die. But
in order to understand how to attain immortality, one must first know what death is. What is
death? Then only we can understand how to conquer it. If you don’t know who your enemy is, is
there any question of defeating him. Can you defeat or conquer an enemy whom you do not
know? Therefore in order to conquer your enemy, what do you have to do? First of all you have
to recognize who he is, what he is, what his strength is, and how he can harm me and then you
take the action to counter that influence. So those who are situated in knowledge, they know that
death is inevitable some day or other. Therefore one who is situated in knowledge he does not
get bewildered with this issue of death. Rather he prepares for that. Just like Pariksit maharaja
did, and this is an indication that he was situated in knowledge. Pariksit maharaja was a king; he
could have made so many arrangements to counteract that. Actually if he wanted, he could have.
You know how, just to give one example: Pariksit maharaja was cursed that he would be killed
by being bitten by a serpent, celestial serpent called Takshaka. So there was one, you can say, a
snake doctor, the expert of counteracting poison, his name was Kasyapa, a sage, a saintly person,
a Brahman. So he heard that the king was going to be bitten by a snake. So he said fine, I will
come to counteract. So he was going to Pariksit Maharaja, at that time Takshaka was also
coming, so Takshaka came in the disguise of a Brahman, although he is a serpent, although he is
a snake. But he has, the celestial serpent, the celestial being having the ability to transform
themselves in different forms. Takshaka took the shape of a Brahman and he was coming and on
the way they met. Takshaka and Kasyapa said, ok let’s travel together, so then they started to talk
Takshaka: “Where are you going?” Kasyapa: “I am going to Hastinapura.” Takshaka: “Why are
you going there?” Kasyapa: “I heard that the king is going to be bitten by a snake and he is going
to die, so I am going there to save the king.” Takshaka became very angry. He immediately
assumed his form as a serpent, a snake, a huge gigantic snake and he said “I am Takshaka; I am
going to bite him. Do you think you can counteract my poison?” Takshaka immediately, he just
bit, a banyan tree, a huge banyan tree. And the tree immediately turned into ashes and he said:
“See this is the power of my poison, and do you think you are going to counteract that?
Immediately the king’s body is going to burn into ashes as soon as I bite.” So Kasyapa did not
say anything. He took some water from his water pot, did his achaman, and cleansed his mouth
before chanting the mantra and then he took some more water on his palm. He chanted some
mantras, sprinkled some water, on the heap of ash and immediately it came to live. The tree was
regenerated. So Takshaka was surprised. And then he took another course to convince him, he
said: “Look, you may counteract my poison, but you won’t be able to counteract the curse of a
Brahman. So you go back home. And I will give you all these most precious gems. So you go
back home.” So Kasyapa considered that is true like the curse of a Brahman is irretraceable. So
he went back. And now we can see that there are more personalities who could have
counteracted the curse. But Pariksit Maharaja did not take that course. He considered that
“Whenever the Lord will desire me to leave this planet, I will leave. So, now if that is His desire
then in seven days time, I am going to die, ok, at least, I am fortunate that I have got the
information that I am going to die in seven days time. I have seven days to prepare myself.” He
considered that to be a very very great fortune that he had seven days to prepare. We can
consider that most of the time, we don’t actually want to prepare and sometimes death comes
without our knowing about it. All of a sudden we die. So in that respect, Pariksit maharaja was
fortunate and he considered himself very fortunate that at least he has seven days to prepare
himself. So he did that. He, as I mentioned earlier, he left his kingdom, he went to the bank of
Ganges, he sat down without taking any food, water, without sleeping. He just was preparing
himself for his final moment. And at that time, all the greatly saintly persons from the universe
gathered there. They all came there in order to help the king at a difficult time like that. So many
saintly personalities gathered, assembled there and many of them gave different advice to
Pariksit maharaja, but Pariksit Maharaja was not interested in their advice. They, with all good
intention tried to give him good advice but Pariksit Maharaja considered that these advices were
pertaining to the material facilities, material benefits. What kind of benefit? The benefit of
elevating to higher planetary system. The earth planet is not the only planetary system in this
universe. There are many higher planetary systems. Now, there are possibilities of elevating to
higher planetary systems where the facilities are better. But Pariksit maharaja was not interested
in these kind of advices because he considered the ultimate goal of life is not to enjoy this
material nature, whether in higher planetary systems or lower planetary systems, because this
material nature is temporary, no situation in this material nature is going to be permanent and
this material nature ultimately is a place of misery. So what’s the question of enjoyment in a
place of misery! Jaya Sri Sri Radha Golokananda ki Jai! Sri Sri Gaura Nitai ki Jai!! Sri Prahlad
Nrsimhadeva ki Jai!! Srila Prabhupada ki Jai!! So he was not interested but, at that time
Sukadeva Goswami appeared there. A very wonderful personality. He was a sixteen year old
boy, very handsome, very, very handsome, a personality who was endowed with all the
symptoms. He was so absorbed in spiritual consciousness. He was so absorbed in thinking about
the Supreme Personality of Godhead and his pastimes that he did not have any external
consciousness. He did not have any body consciousness so much so that he did not care to wear
anything, he was naked. And he just arrived there and when he arrived there, everybody, all the
exalted saintly personalities could immediately recognize that this is a very special person and
they stood up out of respect. Although he was a 16 year old boy. And then they considered that
this is the most exalted personality meaning, this personality has the highest spiritual knowledge
and Pariksit Maharaja also recognized him and he offered him the exalted seat of a teacher and
he questioned him. Pariksit Maharaja asked him many relevant questions dealing mainly with
this particular topic. His main question was: I’m going to die within seven days, tell me how to
prepare myself for that occasion. I have only seven days left and how must I utilize these seven
days and then Sukadeva Goswami started to instruct him. And that is what Srimad Bhagavatam
is. Therefore while we are covering this topic, we are actually covering Srimad Bhagavatam. The
essential teachings of Srimad Bhagavatam. Generally, when I give a seminar, I like to write on
the board and walk about and I thought of doing that and I got this board here but I am little
concerned that many of you are taping and if I stand up then you won’t be able to tape. Therefore
I thought of one simple solution to this problem. Babai how is your hand writing on the white
board? I am making some points, the points that I make, you can just write them. I will just make
these few points, those who are taking notes, so the few points that I was making, I already
made, I will just give you those points. Like one point is Pariksit Maharaja’s approach to death.
How did Pariksit Maharaja approach his imminent death? Did he try to call some doctors and try
to save himself? No, rather he faced, he prepared himself to face it. And, then when he decided
to face it, he was confronted with two possibilities. One is the apparent goal and the other is
ultimate goal. So what is the apparent goal? The apparent goal is elevation to higher planetary
systems and what is the ultimate goal? Ultimate goal is total freedom from material bondage, and
elevation to spiritual world. The higher planetary system is also part of this material nature. Like
if we consider this material nature to be a prison house, then elevation to higher planetary
systems are something like from lower grade of prison existence to a higher grade of prison.
Like, I don’t know if you have it here, but in some countries in India, they have things like you
know third class prison. The worst I think is vigorous prisoner. They have to work very hard. I
mean, then, in this way it comes to second class prisoner, and then comes a first class prisoner.
Now, if a prisoner, thinks, I am in third class, let me be elevated to second class and then to first
class. Is it an intelligent endeavor? To try to be elevated to a higher level of prison systems. No,
what would be the intelligent thing to do? Get out of the prison, who wants to be in a prison? So,
what did you write Babai? So, maybe you can make a point here. The material nature is like a
prison house, for some and to some others, this material nature is like a boarding school. Ok we
will discuss about this point now. Now, who are put into prison? The prison is design for whom?
The criminals. Does a gentleman go to a prison? He may go for an occasional sightseeing, but he
does not go to live in the prison. The prison is meant for the criminals. What is the definition of
criminals? What is crime? Breaking of law, to break the law. The state or the king has given
some laws. And those laws are meant to be followed or abided by. Now, those laws have to be
followed. Why? Because, the law is actually meant for peaceful and prosperous living of the
citizens of the state or the kingdom. When somebody breaks the law, it creates some
disturbances. People who have perverted mentality of not abiding by the law of the king, has a
perverted mentality. When somebody has a perverted mentality, then that mentality has to be
rectified therefore the prisons are designed. Prisons are the place to rectify the perverted
mentality of the law breakers, criminals. In the prisons, the individuals get punished. They not
always get punished. They also get rewarded. In this way, they know what is right and what is
wrong. And when they do the right thing, in the prison also they appreciate the rewards. And
when they do something wrong, then they get a stick. So the purpose is to rectify, to correct and
to reform them. Now those, who are the law breakers, and whose law is it here? There is the
ultimate law that has been given by the Lord, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. And the law
given by the Lord is actually called religion. Whenever we consider religion, whichever religion
it is, whether it is Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Hindus, whichever religion we approach, we see
in all the religion, we are speaking about God and the laws that He has given and how should one
abide by those laws isn’t it? Doesn’t all religion speak about God? Doesn’t all religion give the
injunction of what the Lord’s instructions are? Or motivate one or direct one or instructs one to
follow those instructions of the Lord? When somebody abides by the laws of the Lord, then
actually they become rewarded but when they break them, they become punished. That is the
ultimate consideration of imprisonment. For the criminals, this material nature is like a prison.
But the material nature also, has another aspect or another side of it. And that side of it is
something like a boarding school. In the boarding school, parents sent their children to the
boarding school. They are away from home. But what they learn in the school, they learn how to
become qualified to live in the free world, a life of prosperity. Those who abide by the law of the
Lord, for them, this material nature are like a boarding school. Those who are there in the
boarding school, they are away from their home. But actually, they are preparing themselves to
go back to home and lead a life of prosperity, become successful individuals there. Now, it’s up
to us, to turn this place into a prison house or a boarding school. The advantage of a boarding
school is when you finish your term, when you finish your education, then you go back home. It
is just taken for granted. And that we will go home. You are not here to stay forever. So, the
Lord, also, is present in the hearts of every living entity and he is actually considering or
determining how an individual is living his life or what is going on inside. Inside, means what is
going on in his consciousness. Externally, we may bluff, cheat or fool others, but internally we
can’t. Now the Supreme Personality of Godhead is situated in everyone’s heart, as the Super soul
and He is witnessing everything. Now, there as the super soul also , the Lord has two ways to
deal with the individual, like to the criminals, He is acting as a witness and He is seeing how
they are acting accordingly and punishing them or rewarding them. And those who have
accepted this place as the boarding school, the Lord sitting in their heart are acting as the teacher.
He guides them from within. Now those who lead a materialistic life, those who think that the
ultimate goal of life is to enjoy in this material nature and do not really want to accept the
existence of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, or another reality beyond this material nature
which is the spiritual reality and those who do not have any information about the spiritual
reality and they do not know, that they actually came from the spiritual reality, therefore the
spiritual reality is actually their home. They simply keep on wandering in the material nature
from one cell to Another and the Lord in their heart acts as the witness. The Lord is seeing every
action of every individual. Those who are fortunate enough to understand that beyond this
material nature are another reality, the spiritual reality. The Supreme Personality of Godhead is
the center of that reality. He is the Supreme Creator, the Supreme Proprietor, the Supreme
Maintainer, and that Supreme Personality of Godhead is our dear most friend or He is our dear
most Father. When you recognize the individuals, those who recognize that, to them this material
nature becomes like a boarding school. And they take advantage of the situation in the school by
learning, they learn and who is the teacher? The Lord and his associates and his devotees. They
are helped by those exalted devotees of the Lord and ultimately they are helped by the Lord
Himself. And they simply prepare themselves to get out of the school and go out to their home
and become a successful individual. Now that is something like the end or that is the time of
final examination. And the life is the span of time, the span when we get the opportunity to
prepare ourselves for the exams. We study throughout the year for what? We prepare ourselves
for the year in school for what? They sit for the exams, and when we prepare ourselves well, then
we pass with the flying colours straight A’s and when we fail to prepare ourselves then we flunk.
So now a person who has prepared well, will he be afraid to sit in the exams, rather he looks
forward to the exams. A good student, I am sure all of you are, or had been, did you look forward
to exams? Well certain degree of nervousness may be there, before the exam, but when you get
the question papers, when you get the papers and you see you know the answer to all the
questions, then how do you feel? Don’t you feel excited and in bliss, in ecstasy? Therefore those
who prepare themselves, they get into ecstasy when the exams come. Although some initials
nervousness may be there, and now consider what actually happens, when a person who has
prepared himself well, preparation means what does that preparation means for this exams? This
preparation is actually preparing to establish our relationship with the Supreme Personality of
Godhead. The real preparation is to recognize the Lord, to recognize the Supreme Personality of
Godhead and establish our relationship with Him. Throughout our life, we are actually preparing
for that, how shall I face the exams? Throughout our life if that becomes our only concern and
then the time comes for the final exams and what is that exam? That is the time when we are
going to leave this body. So at that time what do we do? We are waiting for this moment to come
and we are out of this body. Will it happen or will it always remain in this body ? Well, there is
another consideration; a third possibility is losing your consciousness. Lose your consciousness
means something like you fall asleep, no more consciousness, no more awareness. Now to a
devotee, that is the most undesirable situation. A devotee doesn’t want to lose his consciousness,
rather at that time, he wants to fix his consciousness onto the lotus feet of Krsna. That spiritual
endeavor has been described as Krsna consciousness. So throughout our life we are trying to be
Krsna conscious. And then the final moment comes and then we see Krsna, how will you feel?
How will you feel that your entire endeavor, throughout your life has been successful? Now you
are face to face with Him. Or you are in a situation, when you have been taken to the Supreme
Personality of Godhead. Anyway these aspects we will discuss tomorrow, today we are just,
today we won’t get into the examples of individuals leaving the bodies and how they left their
body. Like today, we are just covering the basic understanding of this aspect of what life is, what
death is. Now let us again for clarity, let us go back to that point what is life? What is the
definition of life? You are alive what makes you think you are alive? Consciousness. What is
consciousness? Consciousness is the awareness of being. I am, therefore I am alive. When I fall
asleep and I do not have any awareness, whether I am alive or dead, then, what happens? do I
exist? No. When you are fast asleep. Sleep also has two aspects. One is dreams and the other is
dreamless. Like in dream, dream is actually a situation in a subtle existence. When the subtle
body is active, that is called dream. When both the subtle and gross bodies are active, then it is
called wakeful state. When you are awake, then both the gross bodies and the subtle bodies,
anyway for clarity I was saying gross body, we have two types of material bodies. Cintamani can
you tell us what are those two types of material bodies, gross and subtle? What does the gross
body comprise of? Earth, water, fire, air and ether. And subtle bodies are comprised of? Radhika
do you know subtle body? Ok I will ask your mother. What is the subtle body? Subtle body is
made up of mind, intelligence and false ego. The mind is also matter, subtle matter. These are the
three subtle elements. Earth means a solid substance; water means liquid, fire means fiery, air
and ether. These five are gross material elements. With these five gross material elements, we
have this gross body. Beyond this gross body we have a subtle body made of mind intelligence
and false ego. When you are awake, then both the gross and subtle body is active. Like, our body
is also active or aware and we are also aware of our subtle body. When you fall asleep, then the
gross body becomes inactive. We become unconscious of the gross body, but the subtle body
remains active and the subtle activities of the subtle body appear to us like a dream. When the
subtle body also becomes inactive that is the state of deep sleep. At that time we don’t have any
consciousness of this material nature. Let us consider the situation between death and sleep or
the other way round. Sleep we know what sleep is like. Sleep and death. What is the relationship
between sleep and death? When we are asleep, although we are not conscious of our existence,
our consciousness is completely inactive that state is sleep. Even at that state the soul is in the
body. And in sleep we wake up in the same body. Death also is like sleep. But it is a prolonged
sleep. And in death we don’t wake up in this body. We wake up in another body. And that is
called the transmigration of the soul. The soul transmigrates from one body to another. The body
is constantly changing. In this body also, the soul is going from One body to another for example
continuous changes are taking place and since the changes are taking place in the body
continuously, we don’t register it. But we do, when we somebody after a long time. Like you see
a little child, and then you come after seven years, what will you see? That he has completely
changed. Does he have this child body anymore? No he has got another body, his body has
changed completely. Then you see him after another ten years. Now he is a man, it is impossible
to recognize him, he has got a beard, moustache, he has got long hair, and he has got a big body.
So in this body also the soul transmigrates from one body to another. The body changes from
boyhood to youth, to old age. So Kardama Muni you agree with me? Do you remember your self
when you were a 5 year old? So when you were 5 years old, what kind of body did you have? Do
you have a picture? So where is that 5 year old body today? It is not there? Today you have a
completely different body. Are you the same person? You are the same person, although your
body changed but you are the same person. In spite of the change of the body, the soul is the
same. But will it be a logical conclusion that in spite of the change of the body, the soul doesn’t
change? The existence of the soul has nothing to do with the body. Now let us consider, when
the soul leaves the body, then what happens? That is what is called death. Death is actually the
soul’s departure from the body. When the soul leaves the body, the body becomes dead. When
the soul leaves the body, then what happens to the body? To begin with this is the dead body.
This body is made of what? Earth, water, fire, air and ether. Is earth just regular earth? Is it dead
matter? Or earth is alive. Earth is dead matter. Earth, water, fire, air and ether, all these are
actually inert matter. Now this body is made of inert matter or dead matter? Will it be illogical to
conclude that this is a dead body? Actually it is a dead body, but why this body is alive because
of the presence of the soul. So it is due to the presence of the soul that the body is alive. So now
who are we? So let’s make a very simple consideration who are we? Are we this body or are we
the soul? We saw the body changes, but I remain the same so who is that I? When I say I, who
do we actually indicate? Due to our conditioning of this body, we identify ourselves with the
body. But actually we are the spirit soul. When the spirit soul leaves the body, and I am the spirit
soul, would I continue to exist? Do I continue to exist or do I die with the body? When the body
dies, do I die? No, rather when I am in this body, the body became alive. The body remains alive.
So birth, life and death, they actually indicate, the birth is the soul’s acceptance of a new body.
When the soul accepts a new body, we call it birth, and when the soul leaves the whole body,
what do you call it? Death. And the period of the soul existence, from the time of birth to death is
called life. So do you understand now what life is? Sitarani describe what is life? So now let us
consider, we are in boarding school and when the exams will be? And preparation time is?
Lifetime is the time to preparing ourselves for the final exams. And when we fare well in the
exams, then what happens? We find that Krsna is standing there. He said ok, you did very well.
All your life you have been trying to understand Me, recognize Me and establish your
relationship with Me, so I am very happy with you, so come on, let’s go home. My boy did very
well. I am very happy that I sent you to boarding school. So that is our ultimate objective of
existence in this material nature. Now this has been very wonderfully described through an
allegorical story that was the story of Puranjana in Srimad Bhagavatam. How many of you
remember the story of Puranjana? Ok how many of you don’t? I explain briefly. There was a
great personality, a great king called King Pracinabarhi. So King Pracinabarhi had ten sons.
When his children grew up, King Pracinabarhi advised them to get married and take up the royal
responsibility. So, the children felt that in order to enter the household life, in order to take the
responsibility we have to prepare ourselves properly. So they went to the forest to perform
austerity. Then they came across a beautiful lake. The lake was filled with, decorated with many
beautiful flowers like blue, red and white lotus and there were beautiful and colourful singing
birds that were there, flying around. And then to their great amazement they saw Lord Shiva
coming out of the water. And then Lord Shiva gave them the instruction how to meditate, how to
glorify the Supreme Personality of Godhead and meditate upon Him. So in this way being
blessed by Lord Shiva, they got absorbed in meditating upon the Supreme Personality of
Godhead. And at that time Narada Muni, considered that these ten boys are becoming so serious
about their life and look at the father, he is completely absorbed in sense gratification,
performing all kinds of materialistic activities, to acquire piety so that he can enjoy. So, Narada
Muni thought that I must give example, good advice, but he also considered that this king, he is
so gross. When people become absorbed in sense gratification their intelligence becomes quite
blind. A person with blunt intelligence, in English there is an expression called dunderhead. So
dunderhead cannot understand the necessities of life. So Narada Muni instead of giving him a
straightforward advice, he told him a story. And the story is the story of Puranjana. Actually
when Narada Muni was describing the situation of a living entity in this material nature.
Puranjana means one who dwells in a body. So this body is like a city, Pura means city or
dwelling place. Puri means a house. So the soul lives in the house, this body. Not only this body.
This is one type of body, the human form is one type of body there are four hundred thousand
different types of human bodies and there are eight millions other types of bodies, aquatics,
plants, worms, insects, reptiles, birds, animals and then finally human beings. In the process of
spiritual evolution, not organic evolution, the process of spiritual evolution, the human form, is
the highest form of existence in this material nature. So Puranjana means a spirit soul, he told the
story as I described first, there was a prince, he was wandering around in different places, then
finally he came to a land between the tract of the Himalayan mountain and the salty water ocean.
That’s the land of India. While wandering there he came across a city, a beautiful city with nine
gates. Then he saw, there was a beautiful woman, an extremely beautiful woman and she was
attended by ten very powerful and efficient attendants and there was a five headed serpent that
was protecting this lady, this queen. She was the queen of the city. And then Puranjana came so
attracted by her beauty that Puranjana approached her and wanted to marry her. Eventually they
got married, they started to live in the city of nine gates and Puranjana was quite happily living.
Sometimes he used to feel very depressed, sometimes he used to fight with his queen. Sometimes
he had different types of adversaries. Once a very big onslaught came upon the city. The Javana
king attacked the city. And a very very big fight ensured and they were fighting to protect the
city and the serpent who was actually used to protecting the city was becoming gradually weaker
and weaker, couldn’t really withstand all onslaught. And then the Javana king’s sister Talakanya
came and embraced Puranjana. And when she embraced Puranjana, he lost completely all his
power. He lost all his ability to fight. And then all the soldiers of Javana king dragged him out of
the city. And the Puranjana took birth as a woman in his next life. So here Puranjana died. So
next life Puranjana is born as a woman. So when her Husband died. Her husband at some point
left home. She was a princess; she was married to a king. But the king left her kingdom and went
to vanaprastha, went to the forest. So when the king died, this Puranjani, Puranjana is now a
woman. She lit the funeral pyre. Placed her husband there and lit the fire and then she was also
considering to enter into the fire and give up her life. So at that time one Brahman came and told
her that he was her friend from the long past and at this time of difficulty, he came to help her.
So in this way the Brahman actually rescued Puranjani and led her to the ultimate goal of life. So
the king could understand that it was an allegorical story. So he asked Narada Muni why did you
tell a story like that? What is the hidden meaning behind this story? So then Narada Muni
explained that this Puranjani is actually a spirit soul and the spirit soul wanders in different types
of bodies. Sometimes he is elevated to the higher planetary systems. Sometimes he goes to lower
planetary systems. In this way, he is wandering around this universe and then he comes into the
land of India or we can say the land of wisdom. A land where knowledge is available. And there
he comes across this city of nine gates. And the city of nine gates is the human body. So the
human body has nine gates means there are nine holes through this gate one actually goes out to
enjoy the senses, derive enjoyment from the objects of the senses like two ears, two eyes, two
nostrils, mouth, anus, and genitals. So these are nine gates in the human body. And the queen is
the intelligence who actually makes all the arrangements for the soul to dwell in this human body
and try to enjoy. The queen has ten attendants and they are the ten senses, five knowledge
acquiring senses, and five working senses. The serpent that protects this city is the five types of
air prana, apana, saman, vyan and udan. These five types of air is actually sustaining this body
and making this body function. All the actions and functions of the body are controlled by these
five types of air. And then, there is an attack from the Javana king. Javana king is the king of
death. So a king of death comes along with his soldiers and his sister. then in his next life he
became a woman. Then at the time of funeral of her husband, he came across this Brahman. Who
is this Brahman? The Brahman is the Supersoul, the spiritual master. The spiritual master guides
one towards the lotus feet of the Supreme Personality of Godhead which is the ultimate goal of
life and which indicates our ultimate freedom. So in this way very beautifully through many
many anecdotes and incidences recorded, Srimad Bhagavatam is teaching us what is life and
what is death and how to conquer it. So the Art of dying actually means how to conquer death.
When we conquer death, what do We achieve, we achieve immortality. So I will stop here today
if anyone has any questions please feel free to ask. Question1 HH Bhakti Charu Swami answers:
You see, before death when you are alive, the question of mortality does not come. You are
already immortal at that time. But immortality considers actually one, we are already immortal.
In reality we are immortal. But the problem starts when we forgot our spiritual identity and
began to identify ourselves with the body, and then when the body dies, we think that we are
dying or we are dead. But when we are situated in our spiritual identity then there is no death,
then actually by nature we all are immortal. The first instructions of the vedas are: “O son of
immortality listen to the wisdom of the spiritual reality.” To begin with, we are the children of
immortality. If our father is immortal, then we are also immortal. And only thing is that
unfortunately we are trying to identify ourselves with the body and that’s the problem. Now we
have to realize that we are not this body. The body is just an external covering. We are actually
spiritual being. We become situated in our spiritual identity, and then there is no death. There is
no consideration of death; there is no question of death. Question Two HH Bhakti Charu Swami
answers: How do we become situated in our spiritual identity? When we become connected to
the Supreme spirit, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, then we automatically becomes situated
in our spiritual identity. So to make this point clear, very nice question you brought up and I will
answer it a little elaborately. A living entity, we, the spirit soul, we are very minute spiritual
entities like a spark. Spark is a part of fire, a tiny little fire, but when the spark flies out of the fire
and falls into a heap of ash, what happens to its fiery qualities? It loses its fiery qualities, it
becomes ash. That aspect of fire that spark that it was, it loses its fiery qualities, it stops to be a
spark and becomes ash coming in contact with the heap of ash. When that aspect is taken back
into the fire then what happens, it automatically regains its fiery qualities. Similarly we are all
spiritual beings, but we are tiny, spiritual sparks. So when we get out of spiritual reality, spiritual
nature and coming in contact with the material nature, then we lose our spiritual quality and
become materialized. Just as a spark coming in contact with the heap of ash becomes ash. So that
is the condition, we are spiritual but we are considering ourselves with the material, fighting to
get our spiritual identity. Now tell me how can we get our spiritual identity back? If we go back
to the fire again, then again we become spiritualized again when we go back to the spiritual.
Therefore the way to become re-spiritualized is to re-establish our contact with the supreme
spirit, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. By forgetting him we are falling into this material
nature and lost our spiritual identity. Now if we re-establish our relationship with Him, then we
will again regain our spiritual identity. I told you by re-establishing our relationship with Krsna;
we develop our relationship with Krsna. Now the way to develop is by love. Love is the thing
that brings us together, hates separates us. When we develop our loving relationship, then that
love is actually a force that unites us with Krsna. Yes Sailesh. Question three HH Bhakti Charu
Swami answers: I briefly touched this point before, anyway we will try to elaborate it let’s see.
Consciousness is in simple words, it can be identified as awareness. That I am aware, that I am
sitting in this room, surrounded by so many people. Question Four HH Bhakti Charu Swami
answers: The thing is if the consciousness comes from the soul. Just as light comes, or heat
comes out of fire. You see when there is fire; heat comes out or light comes out. Now just as
light comes out of fire, similarly, one can say that consciousness comes from the soul, now that
consciousness becomes subjective or effective by various factors of this material nature like
three subtle elements and five gross elements like those subtle elements are mind, intelligence
and false ego, the mistaken concept of our identity. So when that happens, then the soul
consciousness is projected towards the material direction. Just let me take one step backwards
and try to elaborate it little more. The soul is from the spiritual world. The soul is not generated
in the material nature due to some chemical combination. Soul is from the spiritual world. Now
the spiritual world is the world of the reality. God is the center. So when we look toward God,
when we have our relationship with God, then we are in the spiritual world. But when we look
away from God, then we look at his external creations, external energy, which is the material
world and when we come in contact with the material nature. When we turn our face away from
the spiritual reality and look towards the material nature and material nature being inferior and
we being superior we develop a tendency to lord over the material nature. Now in reality our
relationship with God is that he is the Supreme Master and we are his eternal servants. That is
our identity actually. We are eternal servants of the Lord. But when we look at the material
nature, then we forget our identity as servant but we resume the identity of the master now that is
the mistaken identity and that is called the false ego, the mistaken concept of our identity. And
then we begin to plan how we are going to exploit this material nature, that gives us the second
covering of the subtle matter called the intelligence how we are going to exploit this world for
our enjoyment and then through the mind, the consciousness constantly flows towards the
material direction. So in this way, we get our subtle body or covering of mind, intelligence and
false ego. Then according to the state of our subtle body, the material nature provides us with the
gross body. Now through this body we virtually or practically try to exploit or enjoy this material
nature. In this way the soul becomes entrapped in these two bodies, subtle and gross. As a result
of that, the consciousness begins to flow towards this direction, material direction, through subtle
body and the gross body, through the mind and through the senses. Our consciousness is going
out to its different directions and trying to enjoy. That is the state of affairs in our material
existence. We recognize the facts that it is not a desirable situation here. We want to enjoy but
we can’t enjoy. Enjoyment is an illusory concept. A poor man wants to be a rich man and a rich
man wants to be a king. No one is satisfied in his present existing situation. Either he dwells in
the past or dreams about the future. But the real situation is that we are in a miserable condition
here. If we are miserable here, then why should we stay here? Let’s find the right place where we
can be joyful that’s why we have to make the spiritual endeavor, to go back to the spiritual
world. To become situated in our natural joyful state of existence. Thank you. Hare Krishna.
Questions Five HH Bhakti Charu Swami answers: Maya means the material energy of the Lord,
the illusory energy which actually is manifested in the form of this material nature. It is illusory.
It is not there. We are trying to enjoy, but is there any enjoyment? Like a mirage. In a desert, you
see a mirage and it gives you the impression that there is water and you are very thirsty, dying of
thirst. So you run after the mirage. So what happens? The mirage runs away from you. No matter
how fast you ran after the mirage, the mirage will constantly ran away from you. Our situation in
the material nature is like that and it’s been created by Maya, the illusory energy of the Lord.
Question Six HH Bhakti Charu Swami answers: As long as you remain in material
consciousness, you will be in Maya, But once you take shelter of Krsna then you are not in
Maya. Thank you very much. So I will stop now, and I will see all of you tomorrow. Hare
Krishna. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!!!