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Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.1.62 Lecture
August 29, 1975, Vrindavana

Prabhupada:

stambhayann atmanatmanam
yavat sattvam yatha-shrutam
na shashaka samadhatum
mano madana-vepitam
[SB 6.1.62]

So his mind became very much agitated, young man, and he is seeing in his front that another young man and woman embracing and kissing. It is very difficult to restrain. Unless one is very advanced, it is not possible. That I was reciting, the verse by Yamunacarya, yadavadhi mama cettah padaravinde, krshna-padaravinde nava-nava-dhaman rantum asit, tadavadhi bata nari-angame bhavati sushtu nishthi... Unless one is very strong in Krishna consciousness, it is very difficult to restrain the mind and the senses. It is very difficult. Here it is said, mana madana-vepitum. Madana means Cupid, or the lusty desires. So he was agitated. His mind was agitated by lusty desires. Therefore we have to be very careful for the association. Sangat sanjayate kamah. We develop different consciousness by particular association. Therefore, for advancing in Krishna consciousness, we must associate with the devotees. You cannot advance in Krishna consciousness without being in the association of devotees. Sri Narottama dasa Thakura says... (aside:) Tell them that Hindi will be in the evening. Tell them that Hindi will be evening. They are going away. Yes. Between half past seven to half past eight. So mano madana-vepitam.Cupid is always disturbing. This material world means this Madana, Cupid, whole material world. Yan maithunadi-grhamedhi-sukham hi tuccham [SB 7.9.45]. Grhamedhi means those who have decided to prolong this body for sense enjoyment. That is going on. Everyone is trying so hard. In big, big cities they are working so hard like hogs and dogs, not for... They say that "We are hungry. We must work very hard." But that is not the fact. The real fact is that "We want to enjoy sex." So far hunger is concerned, you can control, but sex desire, it is very difficult to control.

So this material world means that maithunadi. Maithuna means sex intercourse. That is the beginning of material life. You know very well how strong is sex desire in the Western countries. Even old man, going to die, he has also. Although he cannot enjoy sex, still, he is trying his best by medicine, by other means, by intoxication, by stimulant. So that is the only happiness of this material world.

yan maithunadi-grhamedhi-sukham hi tuccham
kanduyanena karayor iva duhkha-duhkham
trpyanti neha krpana bahu-duhkha-bhajah
kandutivan manasijam vishaheta dhirah
[SB 7.9.45]

The human civilization means to create the population dhira, not to be disturbed by sex impulse. This is human civilization, not that so many so-called sadhus and... They are now preaching openly the yoga by sex. Yoga by sex. They have invented. Yoga means to find out the Supreme Lord within one's self, within the core of the heart. That is real yoga. Yoga means to connect. To connect with whom? With sex life? No. The sex life connection is there even in the birds, beast, ants, animals, worms—everywhere—because the whole world is going on on sex life. Does it require any yoga system? But people are fallen so down that they have invented because people want it, and these rascals, they exploit. This is going on. So real yoga system means to control the senses, not to increase or indulge. They are clearly advertising in the Western countries, "Transcendental meditation. There is no restriction. There is no question of faith," and so many things, means as people want it. They want money, and they advertise like that. People do not want to follow the religious principles. People do not want any restriction. They advertise, "Yes. You haven't got to follow any restriction. You haven't got to believe in some religion. You simply pay me $127, and I give you mantra, and you become happy." This is going on.

But that is not the fact. Real fact is how to control the mind. Here we see that mana madana-vepitam. Na shashaka samadhatum mano madana-vepitam. Our mind is always agitated for sense enjoyment. Mind is the master of the senses, or the chief man, just like superintendent. Mind is dictating, and the senses The mind is dictating, "You go there"; immediately the legs go. "You see here"; the eyes see. So mind is the center. Manah-shashthanindriyani prakrti-sthani karshati [Bg. 15.7]. Bhagavad-gita. This living entity, mamaivamsho Krishna says, "All these living entities, they are My part and parcel." So question may be, "Then why they are rotting here? If the living entities are part and parcel of Krishna, or God, so why does he not live with God?" The immediate answer is manah-shashthanindriyani prakrti-sthani karshati [Bg. 15.7]. These living entities, these conditioned souls who has come to this material world—the only reason is that they want to satisfy the senses, manah-shashthanindriyani. Therefore there is struggle for existence. He wants to enjoy. He wants to become the enjoyer. But he is not enjoyer. That is called illusion. He is enjoyed. He cannot enjoy. Enjoyer is only Krishna, purusha. Purushah shashvatam.

In the Bhagavad-gita it is said, param brahma param dhama pavitram paramam bhavan, purusham shashvatam adyam [Bg. 10.12]. Krishna, the Lord, is described as purusha, and living entities are described as prakrti. Apareyam itas tu viddhi me prakrtim para, jiva-bhuto maha-baho yayedam dharyate jagat [Bg. 7.5]. Krishna has explained. There is material energy and spiritual energy. So jiva-bhuta. Jiva-bhuta, the living entities, they have been described as prakrti, and prakrti means females. And Krishna has been described as purusha. So purusha is the enjoyer, and prakrti is the enjoyed. Don't think that "enjoyed" means simply sex. No. "Enjoyed" means subordinate, to carry out the order of the purusha. This is the position of Krishna and ourself. We are part and parcel, just like the hands and legs are my part and parcel of the body. So the duty of the hands and legs are that carry out my order. I say my legs, "Carry me there." He will... It will do immediately. My hand—"Just take it." I'll take it. The hand will take it. So this is prakrti and purusha. The purusha orders, and the prakrti performs the duty. This is the real..., not that as soon as we say prakrti and purusha, immediately there is question of sex. No. Means...Prakrti means obedient, obedient to the purusha. This is natural way. In the Western countries they are artificially trying to become equal, but that is not possible by nature. And there is no such question, inferiority or superiority. There is no such question. Such like the begin, in the beginning, yato va imani bhutani jayante. Janmady asya yatah [SB 1.1.1]. Wherefrom this purusha and prakrti relationship begun? Janmady asya yatah. It has begun from the Absolute Truth. Therefore Absolute Truth is Radha-Krishna, the same purusha and prakrti. But Radharani is the servitor, serving. Radharani is so expert that She always attracts Krishna by Her service. This is Radharani's position. Krishna is called Madana-Mohana. Here in Vrndavana there is Madana-Mohana, and Radharani is called Madana-Mohana-Mohini. Krishna is so attractive that we are attracted by Cupid, and Krishna attracts Cupid. Therefore His name is Madana-Mohana. And Radharani is so great that She attracts Krishna. Therefore She is the greatest. In the Vrndavana, therefore, people are accustomed to chant Radharani's name more than Krishna's name—"Jaya Radhe." Yes. If you want Krishna's favor, you just try to please Radharani. So this is the way.

Now here it is said, mana madana-vepitam: "Mind was agitated." So this mind agitation will go on unless one is attracted by Madana Mohana. If we do not be attracted by the Madana Mohana, so long we are not attracted by Madana Mohana we must be attracted by Madana, madana-vepitam. This is the process. And unless you can control your mind, unless you are able to control your mind not to be disturbed by Madana, there is no question of liberation or salvation. The ultimate goal of life is how to become free from this material engagement, repetition of birth, death, and threefold miseries. That is the perfection. They do not know what is the goal of life, what is the perfection of life, the whole world. Especially in this age they are so fallen that they do not know what is the goal of life. All these big, big political parties, philosophers, scientists, they have no knowledge. They are in the darkness. Therefore it is called illusion, in the darkness. But we understand thatkrshna surya sama: "Krishna is just like sun." Krishna surya-sama; maya andhakara: "And this darkness means maya."

krshna surya-sama; maya andhakara
yahan krshna, tahan nahi mayara adhikara
[Cc. Madhya 22.31]

Mam eva ye prapadyante mayam etam taranti te [Bg. 7.14]. This is the process.

So it is a great science. Krishna consciousness movement is most scientific movement to get the whole human society from the pitch of darkness. Grham andha-kupam. Grham andha-kupam. The Prahlada Maharaja was asked by his father, "What you have learned most...," I mean to say... I forget. Yes, "The best thing, what you have learned?" He said, hitvandha kupam, hitvatma-ghatam grham andha-kupam vanam gato yad dharim ashrayeta [SB 7.5.5]. Tat sadhu manye asura-varya dehinam sada samudvigna-dhiyam asad-grahat. The same thing. Sada samudvigna-dhiyam asad-grahat. The materialistic persons, they are always in anxiety. Tat sadhu manye asura-varya dehinam. Dehinam means not only human society. Anyone who has accepted this material body, even a small ant, and a big, the demigods, Indra and Lord Brahma, such big, big They are also living entities, and the ant is also living entity. By their pious activities they have got big, big post as demigods, prolonged life and many other facilities. But they are all living entities. So these living entities means everyone has got a material body. Material body means it will end. Antavanta ime deha [Bg. 2.18]. In the Bhagavad-gita it is said. However strong you may be for one, antavanta ime deha, it will end. You cannot You may run in the morning three miles and then take very stimulative foodstuff, and Everyone is trying to become very strong. That is good, but however strong we may be, even Hiranyakashipu, it is not possible to stay here. Hiranyakashipu became very, very strong. He insured that he would not die in daytime, at nighttime, and in the water, in the land, on the sky, not by any human being, not by any demigods, not by any animal, not by any weapon. Everything he insured there. That's all right. But God's policy is so nice that, all his insurance keeping aside, He killed him not by weapon—by the nails. He forgot this, that "I may be killed by the nails." Then he thought, "I shall not be killed by any animal or man." So Nrsimhadeva—you cannot say it is lion or man-mixed. And he thought that he would not die in daytime or nighttime, but he was killed in the evening. It is neither day nor night. So he would not be killed in the sky, in the water or in the land, so he was killed on the threshold. Therefore we should always remember that we cannot cheat God. He is always at least little more intelligent.

So the conditioned soul, they want to cheat God. They want to deny God. They want to cheat God. That is not possible. In spite of all your insurance and cheating policy, you must have to die. That is stated in the Bhagavad-gita. Mrtyuh aham, sarva-haram: "You do not accept Me. That's all right. You are collecting things for your enjoyment. But I shall... When I shall come as death, not only you shall be killed, but I shall take away whatever you possess." So this is intelligence, that... They say, "There is no God," and God says, "Yes, you see Me at the time of death." But you cannot avoid death. So before meeting death... Just like Hiranyakashipu. Prahlada Maharaja so many times requested, "My dear father, why you are becoming atheist? By His grace you have got so much power. Just submit to Him." "No. There is no God. I am God." So this is called demon. In spite of being punished in so many ways, they will deny the existence of God. So they are... Those who are not devotee, they will be agitated by the maya, by Madana, by Cupid, by so many other illusory things. But if one becomes Krishna conscious, then nothing can. Because Krishna conscious person is not in want. He is not in want. So long we will be in want, our mind will be agitated. Therefore Prahlada Maharaja advised that, sada samudvigna-dhiyam: "Those who are always agitated..." Everyone is agitated. Samudvigna. Tat sadhu manye asura-varya dehinam. Anyone who has accepted this material body must be always agitated in mind, sada. Why? Asad-grahat. Because he has accepted this temporary body, he must be full of anxiety. It cannot be avoided. Asad-grahat. Asato ma sad gama. The Vedic injunction is "Don't keep yourself in this temporary world or temporary body. Must go to the spiritual world, back to home, back to..." This is Vedic injunction. Sad gama. Asato ma sad gama. Asad-grahat. If you accept this temporary material world, means temporary body... Dehino 'smin yatha dehe kaumaram yauvanam... [Bg. 2.13]. We are transmigratng from one body to another. This is asad-grahat. Why I shall transmigrate if I am eternal? Na hanyate hanyamane sharire [Bg. 2.20]. I am eternal. So this is intelligence: "How I can get permanent body so that I may not have to change bodies one after another." This is intelligence.

So this person... There are many important words in this verse, and it can be explained for a long time. The one word is thatstambhayann atmana atmanam. Just like a thief is going to steal. He also tries to control him: "I am going to steal. The after-effect will be that I will be arrested, and I will have to go to jail, and it is forbidden by shastra and human laws also, state laws. So I am going to steal. There is risk." Actually there is risk. But this consciousness beats him, but he cannot control. This is the position. He cannot control. He knows everything, but still, he steals. The same thing happened here. Here it is said, na shashaka samadhatum. He was a brahmana, learned brahmana. He knew that "I am being agitated by these sex desires. It is not good. It is not good." Yatha-shrutam. Sruta. Sruta means Vedic knowledge. He had sufficient education in Vedic knowledge. Yatha-shrutam and yavat sattvam, as far he could control... Stambhayann atmana atmanam. He tried to control the mind as far as intelligence concerned, but na shashaka—he could not control. Na shashaka samadhatum. Why? The mind was too much agitated. This is the point. This is the point, that his mind was too much agitated, madana-vepitam,by lusty desire. Lusty desire is very strong. Therefore it is in the injunction of the shastra,

matra svasra duhitra va
naviviktasane vaset
balavan indriya-gramo
vidvamsam api karshati
[SB 9.19.17]

That is vidvamsam api karshati. This Ajamila is a learned brahmana. He is vidvan. He is not a fool. But vidvamsam api karshati.Therefore it is forbidden, matra svasra duhitra va: "Don't keep yourself in a lonely place and talk 'pish pish' with woman, even she is mother, daughter, or sister." Strictly forbidden. That "pish pish" will kill you. Therefore it is forbidden that "Don't talk in solitary place with woman even she happens to be your daughter, your mother, and your sister." Generally one is not agitated in sex with mother, with sister, with daughter. But it is forbidden up to death. Even Brahma became agitated by seeing his daughter. There is instances. Even Brahma, and what to speak of others?

So mind is so susceptible that... But this mind can be controlled only by Krishna consciousness. Yoginam api sarvesham mad-gata anantaratmana [Bg. 6.47]. Mad-gata, thinking of Krishna, antaratmana, within the core of heart. Mad gata anantaratmna, shraddhavan bhajate yo mam sa me yuktatamo matah: "He is first-class yogi." So unless we can control the mind, we cannot become yogi. Yoga means indriya-samyamah. Yoga means not reducing fat or this or... No. Yoga means controlling the mind, controlling the senses, and concentrate it upon Vishnu, Krishna. Mat para. Yogam yunjan mad-ashrayah.That is yoga. When we take shelter of Krishna and practice yoga, then it will be successful, not that transcendental meditation, this, all foolish things. No. So we have to control the mind. If you want liberation from this material world, you have to control your mind. Therefore Ambarisha Maharaja, he showed us example that sa vai manah krshna padaravindayor vacamsi vaikuntha-gunanuvarnane [SB 9.4.18]. Simply engage your mind thinking of Krishna and talk of Krishna. Then this agitation will not disturb you.

Thank you very much. (end)