Srila Prabhupada -

The marginal living entities or jiva-souls are NOT called tatastha-sakti in Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana as Prabhupada explains-

Srila Prabhupada - "So this material world is the "taṭastha" (conditioned characteristics), and the Spiritual Worlds are the "Personal" (Vaikuntha) characteristics" (New York City, December 28, 1966)

The word "tatastha-sakti" refers to the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) in their FALLEN conditioned state in both the material creation and when dormant in the (impersonal) Brahmajyoti.

Revatīnandana - "Srila Prabhupāda you very clearly explained to me once in a letter that if the jiva-soul then goes into the brahmajyoti, he is considered still fallen. Still fallen. Does that means the whole brahmajyoti is composed of fallen souls? You see my question? If I go there, I'm a jīva-soul, and I go to the brahmajyoti I'm still fallen".

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes".

Revatīnandana - "That means all jīva-souls there are also fallen souls?".

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes". (Room Conversation August 17, 1971, London)

Srila Prabhupada - ''Existence in the impersonal brahman is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness. Those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition". (Letter to: Revatinandana, Los Angeles 13 June, 1970)

Srila Prabhupada - ''When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition. The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness'' (Letter to: Revatinandana, Los Angeles 13 June, 1970)

In the jiva-soul's ORIGINAL position in Goloka Vrindavana, they have the same bodily features like Krsna - sat cit ananda vigraha, which means-

"Eternity, Knowledge, Bliss all together as perpetual FORM" like Krsna.

The full potential and original feature of all marginal living entities is a two arm form like Krsna's Form.

Devotee – “Is the original body of the spirit soul a human form?”

Srila Prabhupada – “Yes, human form. God is also human form. "Man is made after the shape of God." I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So God is also like human form. Here you see Krsna, two hands, two legs”.

Hari-sauri – “How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?”

Srila Prabhupada – “[describing material form first]: Yes. They are more covered. Just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket.

So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of the soul”.

Hari-sauri - “They are covered in the spiritual world?”

Srila Prabhupada - “Not in the spiritual world. There that is voluntary.

Some devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body.

That is spiritual life. There is no restriction.

If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact". (Srimad Bhagavatam 6.1.1-4 - Melbourne, May 20, 1975)

The English word "generated" can be misleading if not properly understood because that word can mean a beginning point, or an origin point however, the jiva-souls have no origin or beginning point.

This is because they have always existed and were NEVER created as Bhagavad Gita teaches us. (BG 2.12)

"For the soul there is never birth nor death. Nor, having once been, does he ever cease to be. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing, undying and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain".

The marginal living entities (jiva-souls) in their full potential are always a Spiritual bodily PERSON vigraha (form) first.

However, some time over eternity, due to choice or fall down from Vaikuntha to the temporary material creation, the now embodied jiva-souls in their material vessels eventually, over time, became frustrated with the constant cycle of repeated birth and death, and the decaying nature of the material creation.

Seeking freedom from that frustration in the temporary material creation, the fallen jīva-souls then attempt to find their liberation (freedom) from the continuous difficulty of material existence.

They do this by attempting to extinguish their individuality and personality by becoming a dormant (inactive) bodiless unit or spark in the impersonal aspect of the Brahmajyoti, which can also be an almost dead motionless existence also in the material atom as Prabhupada has explained.

However, entering the impersonal aspect of the Brahmajyoti, or existing dormant in the atom as an inactive unit, is also temporary because the natural nature of the jiva-souls is to ALWAYS be active.

Therefore, the jiva-souls eventually takes birth again in the material creation.

Sadly for some who spent an enormous amount of time in the impersonal Brahmajyoti, when they eventually come out of that FALLEN condition, they foolishly believe the impersonal Brahmajyoti is their origin.

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