Prabhupada's reaction was as humorous as it was emphatic: "Beat him with shoes on his face! Because He has created and He has no need to enjoy. Why He has created? He's your father's servant, that He's created for you? He has created for His enjoyment. That is the tendency everywhere. How can you say that God has simply created for your enjoyment? What is his claim? Is there any practical example in the world, that somebody creates something for others? Why do you claim in this way, which is unusual? What is the ground of your this rascal philosophy? Wherefrom you get this idea that I create something for somebody else? A father creates family for his own enjoyment. Wife, children, he wants enjoyment -- society, family. Therefore he takes the risk of maintaining so many people. The principle is if you create something, it is created for your personal enjoyment, but I can allow my sons, my wife, my family members to enjoy with me. But the basic principle is for my enjoyment. This is natural. Where do you get this philosophy that God cannot enjoy?"
"Yes, He doesn't need to enjoy," Navayauvana replied. "They say because He's not like human beings."
Again Prabhupada gave an example from practical experience. "There are so many animals, they are not like human beings. Why they enjoy sex? Can you forbid him that, 'You are not like human being, you cannot enjoy'? This is all nonsense philosophy. Because they do not know what is God, what He is, what is His position, relationship, therefore these nonsense things are said."
Srila Prabhupada put the dearth of knowledge of God down to misleadership in every major field of human endeavor -- philosophy, science, politics, sociology. People were being led by rascals and fools who had no idea of the real welfare of society. As an example he pointed out that although there is a police department, all kinds of sinful activities are allowed to go on because no one knows what is sinful anymore.
Dayananda said that they judged everything on the basis of what they thought was good for humanity, and in essence that was whatever gives pleasure to the greatest number of people.
Prabhupada replied that was the mentality of a child. "It is the duty of the parent to train him to the right point of view. The child takes pleasure playing the whole day, but the father does not allow him. If you leave, let the child seek his own pleasure, then you are spoiling him. Then there is no need of becoming your father, guardian; let him be spoiled by his whimsical pleasure. In my childhood I was not willing to go to the schools. My mother forced, by force she used to ... My father was lenient and my mother kept a special man, that, 'Your duty is to take him by force to the school.' Yes. My father, my mother would complain that 'Your boy did not go to school.'
"'Oh, he did not go to school?' And I was sure he was very affectionate. 'Why?'
"'No, I shall go tomorrow.'
"Then father, 'All right, he will go tomorrow, that's all right.' But that tomorrow will never come. This is my practical [experience]. My mother forced me. So I thought, 'It is pleasure. Why shall I go to school? Let me play whole day.' But it is the duty of the guardian to see that this is not pleasure, this is spoiling. Otherwise why the guardians are required? Why government is needed, why king is needed, why father is needed, why guru is needed? Just to guide. Therefore whatever you think whimsically it is pleasure, the guru, the father, the king, the government, they should guide: 'No, it is not pleasure, it is ruining. You should take like this.' If the guru and father and the government, they are themselves rascals and fools, how they will guide? And that is the position. General public, they require guidance, but the guides themselves are rascals and fools, cheaters, bluffers. Therefore the social condition is very bad."
- From "A Transcendental Diary Vol 4" by HG Hari Sauri Prabhu
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