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Interactions with Dr.Patel

August 16th, 1976

Prabhupada took his walk on the roof again this morning. When Dr. Patel arrived, they sat for a while in the open air and discussed vairagya, detachment. Prabhupada told him that if one has bhakti, detachment automatically comes. "Now, 'I have got some bhakti and some material desire also.' That is not bhakti; that is markata-vairagya [monkey renunciation]. That does not mean that I shall stop bhakti. No, you take bhakti to the regulative principle, then automatically vairagya will come. The vairagya is not coming, that means you have not been a pure bhakta. That is adulteration. Anyabhilasita-sunyam; that is bhakti. And because there is not anyabhilasita-sunyam, it is adulterated."

Dr. Patel knows a fair amount of Sanskrit, and he quoted from Bhagavad-gita, "Bhakti-avyabhicarini."

"Yes," said Prabhupada, saying the full verse. "He is above three gunas. So if I am still under the modes of material nature, that means I'm not in avyabhicarini bhakti. This is the warning. Therefore Lord Buddha rejected Vedas.

"Because, sir," Dr. Patel said, "in the name of Veda people were misbehaving."

Prabhupada agreed, adding that just as people then were justifying their desire to eat meat by citing Vedic references to animal sacrifices, so similarly there is a class of men now who misuse the works of the six Gosvamis to justify living in Radha-kunda. "But whether you have followed other things. Vaco vegam manasah krodha-vegam; prthivim sa sisyat. You are manipulated by the udara-vegam, upastha-vegam ... First there is test: etan vegan yo visaheta dhirah, then for him Radha-kunda. Dhiras tatra na muhyati. But he has got three dozen seva-dasi, and living in Radha-kunda.

"My Guru Maharaja wanted to publish Govinda-lilamrta. He asked permission of Bhaktivinoda Thakura. So first of all Bhaktivinoda Thakura, 'I'll tell you some day.' And when he reminded, he said, 'Yes you can print one copy. If you are so much anxious to print it, print one copy. You'll read and you will see that you have printed. Not for distribution.' So we are printing all these books for understanding properly. Not that, 'Here is Radha-kunda. Let us go.' Jump over like monkey. 'Here is rasa-lila. Immediately ...''


- From "A Transcendental Diary Vol 4" by HG Hari Sauri Prabhu
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