Dr. Patel: But when the dog is there, he does not think he's suffering. He's just like that pig.
Prabhupada: That is illusion. That is called moha, moha. One is suffering. Everyone is suffering. Suppose a big man, a minister, or the prime minister, or the chief minister, he's also suffering. But he's thinking, "Now I am prime minister." That is illusion. | Nobody, nobody is here peaceful. Everyone is suffering. Because threefold miseries. That is the conditional life. And after all, Krsna says that "If you are thinking that you are very happy, that you must know at least these things:
janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi [Bg.13.9]." How you can get out of it? You'll die. Nobody wants to die.
Dr. Patel: Body dies.
Prabhupada: But these rascals, they do... say, "Death is natural." But why don't you like to die? That is suffering. But he thinks, "No, no, it is good." But as soon as I say, "I shall kill you," "No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't kill me. Don't kill me." He does not like to die, but...
Chandobhai: Very helplessly.
Prabhupada: Helplessly. Just like..
Dr. Patel: Swamiji, who dies?
Prabhupada: Now, again you are...
Dr. Patel: Because he has got this... [break]
Prabhupada: ...identification is all right, but you must come to the practical point. Then don't treat any patient. You can say, "Who is suffering?"
Dr. Patel: "Body."
Prabhupada: "Who is suffering..?"
Dr. Patel: We are treating the body.
Prabhupada: "There is no need of taking medicine."
Dr. Patel: I am treating the body. I am not in... You are treating the...
Prabhupada: That's all right. That body is there, and you are absorbed in body. Therefore there is suffering. You may say that "I am not this body, and I am not this body," but when the body's going to be killed, you become afraid. Because you are absorbed. Why go beyond this practical point?
Dr. Patel: Accha.
Prabhupada: Just like everyone knows that you are not the motor car. Everyone knows it. But as soon as there is any breakage in the nice motor car, "Oh, I am gone." Why, where you gone? You are not motor car. But because you are absorbed in the sense that "It is my car, my car, my car," you have become absorbed. So any accident to the motor car, you become unhappy. But everyone knows you are not motor car. Why you become unhappy?
This is called maya. So you are not completely free. So so long we are in this body, so the sufferings of the body is there.
Therefore Krsna says that
tams titiksasva bharata. "Just tolerate." Just tolerate.
Matra sparsas tu kaunteya
You don't be mad, but, because "My motor car is now broken." Or, "There is some accident in my house." But you are not house, neither you are motor car. Everyone knows that. But why you have become so much affected? There, therefore tams titiksasva bharata. You have to tolerate.