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dancing & chanting loudly is gunaah -- specially for mathaji

HARE KRISHNA !
All glories to Srila Prabhupada & radhashyamsundar  n world wide sankirtan movement.

              mathaji & prabhuji i am devotee od iskcon from my childhood i had notice some arguments & fighting , for there is some RULES of iskcon that mathaji's should not dance front of lord radhe krishna & should not say haribol loudly , is there any rule made like this  in iskcon all over the world.
        The other thing is do kirthan or spreading krisna consiouness in the society is it good write . with this houseprogram kirtans is iskcon has some objections ,

         I obey & respect they are some rules like mathajis & prabhuji but chanting n spreading of holy name is chaitanya maha prabhu's desire which even most of our guru's & great snkirtan are doing .
    If any iskcon want to keep any rules  so they can keep like mathaji should compulsory must be on indain outfit ,or keeping head cover with saree , or must tie there hairs,but no one have rights to talk ot to keep rules & objestions for dancing or singing loudly whether they are president of temple or a normal person.
         We need to go always to praphupad's words only , wat  n how much he did with in a short period of time he had expanded the "INTERNATIONAL SOCIETY FOR KRSNA CONSIOUNESS",so nice example our guru gave us , and other guru's also.
even just few days before we got a example of  MY GURU  "Srila AINDRA DAS" prabhuji he had followed the path of prabhupad to spread the holy name & made ther world chant & dance on the holy name .  such a sprituial master are they who never had any objections regarding this all ! Even all the GURU'S want our international society of krsna consiouness  to be expand more n more and make the" KALIYUG" people to bless with mercy of radhashyamsundar & all spritual guru's & devotees.

             If any mistake have done with me in this opinion to say you all devotees , i bow my head & ask sorry to forgive me.
yours servant,
preeti devi dasi,
jai jai sri radha.

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Hare Krishna to mtg and all devotees viewing this,

I humbly try to express whatever I heard and kindly forgive me if there are any mistakes,

1. The main principle of Bhakti is 'Always remember Krishna and never forget Krishna'.
2. All the other rules and regulations are subservants to this principle.

Atleast I know matajis dance during Rath Yatras and of course in front of Radha Krishna, for example check out this kirtan (one of my favorites to hear) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4U1BuMsJ0N0 But I have not noticed in Indian temples till now.........dont know why but the most probable reason could be the presence of prabhujis (esp. Brahmacharis and aspiring ones) as it might prove some sort of distraction leading to the bodily concept of life if not viewed with proper consciouness.

But one thing true is that this is not the fault of matajis.

Also, there is nothing wrong in saying loud haribol for both prabhus and matajis, atleast never I heard anything like that till now.

Our objective is spreading Harinaam sankirtana and we do whatever is favorable. I will try to ask some senior devotee and let u know more.

Please dont take the info. provided by me as granted and verify with some proper sources before considering very seriously.

Hare Krishna.

ys chaitanya
Fitting repy sri radha mataji
HK I MAY not be the correct person to give opinion on what u have raised. But human beings as they are conditioned soul and unless u are on the BACK TO GOD PATH and follow the great footsteps of other senior devotees then we no one rasies any pobelm futher local condtions social etiiques all have their influence on the way certain devotees respond especially loudly telling HARIBOL. this is vey comn in our Satsang and we dance and are encouraged to do since it gives way to shower our love to all the assesmbled devotees including the GURU.U are a very nice mataji please bear for some time an Lord willshownu theway may be through such discussions
hare Krishna to all.
No where it is written that women devotees cant dance in front of deiteis or say hari bol aloud. Krishna has given equal rights to all. May be someone has probhibited ,so that the neophyte devotee who is in bodily concept of life does not get distracted. We should just focus on what Krishna has said and our Gurudev srila prabhupada has said. nothing else.
Hare Krishna !
Man and Woman (Adam and Eve) were designed and created for spreading the Srushti. Lord Brahma designed them with a gene that attracts each other physically so as to ultimately lead them to mate. Kama Dev and Rati were also given the duty to enhance this feeling in Adam and Eve.
If precautionary measure are not taken, the main aim of loving lord Krishna will be much easily forgotten if devotees get attracted to each other. Eyes of man as well as women are more prone to see each other and get attracted, and as now-a-days the attack of "Kaliyuga" the new generation is getting weaker and weaker morally, they lose very easily.
So it is not that women can not dance, but because it will be dangerous for weaker men and weaker women to go astray from what they are dancing before Krishna for. Just because Men are deciding these rules or restrictions does not mean any harsh feelings towards women. It is for the protection of Krishna Consciousness and OUR RETURN BACK TO GODHEAD. I have a point of view that it may be decided to have special Mataji's functions, sankirtan only for mataji's where they can dance to their full satisfaction. This will subside the inner hurt feelings of some of the younger women.
I agree to Maheshji's views......
Hare krishan.
As a view point of a girl I agree But I want to also tell that Our Gurus made some limitations. So we must obey that. Because of the structure of the body both human beings male of female. This is also a big reason. Nitain gaur (lord krishan) not allows ladies in his sankirtan mandli. So we must obey the rules of god. Peace, caring nature, loving behavoir,self respect, having deep thought these somes are the ornamets of a lady in her behaviour.So dont mind
Chant hare krishan and be happy always. And do prayer to lord that he provides us MOKSHA. We never comes back here as men or women. Hare krishan..........................................................
Hare Krishna, with due respect where is it written that ladies are not allowed in sankirtan mandli by Nitai Gaur? Where from do you got the mesage that women should not do sankirtan? " Peace, caring nature, loving behavoir,self respect, having deep thought these somes are the ornamets" are these only for ladies? What about Gents? should they not possess these ornaments?
HK Mtg N Pr.
PAMHO
I don't know about such rules n never heard so. in pune's Sri Sri Radha Kunjbihari temple mataji's also use to dance n say Hari Bol loudly.
I just know tht while dancing n chanting we hve to loose our material conciousness and it happens i know every one here has it's practical experience.
But if sm whr it's order of guru / temple precident then one must obey to......
tht's it.
Sri Sri Radha Kunjbihari Bhagwan ki Jai.
HK Mtg N Pr.
PAMHO
I don't know about such rules n never heard so. in pune's Sri Sri Radha Kunjbihari temple mataji's also use to dance n say Hari Bol loudly.
I just know tht while dancing n chanting we hve to loose our material conciousness and it happens i know every one here has it's practical experience.
But if sm whr it's order of guru / temple precident then one must obey to......
tht's it.
Sri Sri Radha Kunjbihari Bhagwan ki Jai.
HK Mtg N Pr.
PAMHO
I don't know about such rules n never heard so. in pune's Sri Sri Radha Kunjbihari temple mataji's also use to dance n say Hari Bol loudly.
I just know tht while dancing n chanting we hve to loose our material conciousness and it happens i know every one here has it's practical experience.
But if sm whr it's order of guru / temple precident then one must obey to......
tht's it.
Sri Sri Radha Kunjbihari Bhagwan ki Jai.
HK Mtg N Pr.
PAMHO
I don't know about such rules n never heard so. in pune's Sri Sri Radha Kunjbihari temple mataji's also use to dance n say Hari Bol loudly.
I just know tht while dancing n chanting we hve to loose our material conciousness and it happens i know every one here has it's practical experience.
But if sm whr it's order of guru / temple precident then one must obey to......
tht's it.
Sri Sri Radha Kunjbihari Bhagwan ki Jai.

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