After Death

Hare Krishna,

 

One question keep popping up in my mind is about "after death" life. I have been made to understand that whatever last thought comes in mind at the time of dealth, the soul acquires that type of form in next birth.

Now if there is a situation. A person who has lived almost 90% his life violoating all norms of society but at the fag end of his life i.e. remaining 10%, he turns to spirituality and at the time of death, he gets the last thought of being in "Gokul Dham". Will he attain that? If yes, then what about his 90% sinful life? Is that equal to someone who lived the life in serving GOD?

Also, what is written in Veda's about the journey of soul? How does it traverse from one life form to another?

 

Thanks

 

Lokesh Sharma

 

 

 

 

 

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    Hare Krsna Romitji,  Its very good you want to understand Srimati Radharani.  For this you have to follow the process of gradual hearing the transcendental glories of Krsna and Krsna prema.  Again I ask you to read Caitanya Caritamrta.  Sanatana siksa.Or better still hear from the lips of a pure devotee.   Do not jump suddenly to the chapter describeing the glories of Krsna and Radharani.   Slowly and progressively your knowledge and appreciation of these wonderful qualaties has to be developed.  If we jump this development you will not get the desired result.  Which is?   You will feel very humble and most unqualified.  Yet despite this you will desire the most coveted  and rarely acheived spiritual perfection. There will be an awakening of emotions which maddens the mind.   And you will know.  I am the servant of the servant of the servant of The master of the Gopis Sri Krsna.

    Lord Sri Caitanya out of His causeless mercy is accepting everyone who feels theselves humble and fallen.   Only by the grace of Lord Caitanya and His pure devotees will we know and enter the eternal service of Radha and Krsna.  If you desire it Krsna will help you from within and wthout.

  • radharani tatwa to understand is not easy....it is called achintya bheda abheda tatwa...simultaeneous oneness and differences...radha and krishna are 1 but inorder to perform many pastimes they bcome 2..... radha rani is the pleasure giving potency of krsna....the concept of female and male is present only in this material world...but in goloka vrindavan everyone is female except krsna and understanding the pastimes of radha and krsna is just not possible through such contaminated senses....so chant hare krsna,read and hear,take association and by following such principles,1 gradually becomes pure and then only one can understand radha tatwa......

     

    HOPE I QUENCHED UR THIRST

    hare krsna!!!!

  • Hare Krishna Prabhu

     

    In BG Krishna says that the last thought determines your next body, so if this is what Krishna says, then this is exactly what it is.  A person may have done bad karma 90% of his life but if he changes his habits and takes shelter of Krishna without intention of going back to his bad habits then surely Krishna will protect him.  Also such a person may have done a lot of good karma in his past life to have had the opportunity of thinking of Krishna at the latter part of his life.  It does not happen by chance.  Lord Chaitanya says that he forces himself into the memory of people about to leave their bodies if they have dedicated their time in chanting the holy name.  Now we cannot judge a person and say that he has done 90% bad so therefore his 10% good will not gain him entry into the spiritual world, without knowing the persons past karma.  Also remember as Jagadatma prabhu said, there are different types of liberation, so liberation is awarded according to ones karma.  Someone please correct me if I have said anything wrong.  Ys Sivesh.

    • Volunteer
      Dear Siveshni prabhu, pranam.   Bhakti and karma are not related to one another. Yet Bhakti will destroy all our karma both good and bad. There is a nice description of the transcendental nature of Bhakti in the book,  Bhakti tattva viveka. by Baktivinode Thakur.  Wonderful reading!   In short Karma ,jnana and yoga are not the cause of Bhakti.  No matter how many pious and worldly religeous works we perform it will not give rise to Bhakti.  Piety and impiety are all in the material world but Bhakti is not a material thing.  It is on the platform of the eternal soul. Only by hearing from and serveing the pure devotee of he Lord even unknowingly will you develop that transcendental bhakti sukrti.   Then faith will develop in tha Lord and His devotees.  This faith can be developed by such great good fortune in the heart of even a very sinful person.  But if a greatly pious person has not served a pure devotee his faith in the Lord will not awaken and he is considered most unfortunate. Krsna consciousness is like an ocean of transcendental knowledge which you have to enter and learn to swim. 
    • Hare Krishna,

      Thanks you all. Remembering GOD is a very pious thing. It purifies everything. And yes, it does not happen by chance. There are good karma which get fructify at the appropriate time.

       

      regards

      Lokesh Sharma

  • Volunteer

    Dear Romit prahu,   I am veryy happy to hear your questions.  Devotees want to know Krsna in tattva.  To hear about His different incarnations.    Lord Caitanya has taught this subject to Sanatana goswami,  Caitany caritamrta.  sanatan siksa. Read it.  In short Sri Krsna knows everything by His incarnation of the Supersoul Visnu.  He has different types of incarnation and in truth they are nondifferen from Him.  He is manifest in all 3 worlds in so many forms .  Yet despite having manifest unlimited forms  He Has not become divided.  He still remains the complete whole   Acyuta The Supreme individual Person.  He has such inconceivable energies that that they appear contradictory.    Even Lord Brahma and the other demigods are bewildered.   This small boy plyaing games in Braja seems like an ordinary uneducated cowherder.  And Krsna does not even care to think of Himself as God.  He only thinks of Raharani and all His most dear ones in Braja.      He is simultaneously different and nondifferent from bahman and paramatma and all incarnations.  His inconceivabe nature is explained in this way.  When Arjuna saw Mahavisnu with Krsna he becme confused.  Who is Krsna??  So Krsna speaks in such a way that bewilders the minds of everyone.   Only by pure bhakti will Krsna reveal Himself to you and He gives the intelligence by which you can understand His acintya beda abeda tattva.      Go more ad more deeper and you will get the valuble jewel that is deep in the ocean like knowledge of Bhakti.  Hare Krsna

     

  • Volunteer

    Hare Krsna Komit prabhu,   thank you for your kind words .  By the grace of guru and Krsna I speak. it is Them not me .Im just a mail man delivering the message.        If you find it simple to understand Krsna in tattva you are very fortunate.  You must have been blessed by devotees in your previous life.   If you read Brhad Bhagavatamrta you will understand how difficult it is to attain Sri Krsna in Goloka.   Many very great devotees pray even to be born as grass and bushes there to get the dost of the lotus feet of the residents of Braja.  Only a devotee who has spotless unalloyed pure devotion that is spontaneous can go there.

    Go deeper.   You will understand most devotees would be happy with any kind of love of God .  Even Vaikuntha prema is so great and Braja prema is 100s times greater than that .  Lord Caitanya can give everything up to the topmost Goloka madhurya prema.  For that you wll have to have a very intense transcendental greed thet comes in the stage of bhava bhakti.  Goloka is attained by raganuga bhakti.   By unceasing chanting of the pure Holy names of Sri Krsna with such greed you will attain the eternal service of Radha and Krsna in Braja.  A very great and rare attainment!   And for most this sounds very mysterious.  Vaidhi bhaktas get even scared when you mention raganuga bhak.  Go deeper.

  • Volunteer

    Dear devotee , this question is there in Brhad Bhagavatamrta.  The answer in short is that there are different relms in the spiritual world.  You may get liberation but what kind of liberation is it?  All the devotees there feel that their position is perfect and they are 100% satisfied.  They rarely know about the other relms.  Also within each relm are different degrees of intimacy with Bhagavan.  Its a very wonderful description.  Well worth reading.

    The journey of the soul is given in Brhad Bhagavatamrta also Bhagavatam.  The soul is always assisted by higher beings of the 3 worlds.  Devi dham,  Mahesh dham   and Hari dham.  in this way the Supreme Lord is fulfilling the desires of everyone.  Please read the books.  Hari bol!

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